Is this a taste of your Christianity's Heaven?...

I find it rather, manipulative myself ...

 

I guess it all depends on how you look at it. I think it's lovely.

 

Too true Mui. This is exactly the point - we don't need the false "left right" paradigm which talks about education, social security, and the invasion of Iraq. What we need is a correct paradigm of illuminati and non-illuminati believers so we can debate whether secret underground cities are populated with cross bred human/aliens which are plotting a world communist government.

How does this avoid "dividing [society] up into two extremes, where you have one side against another"? It doesn't. Unless Rat means society is polarised until we all join his illuminati aware group, "the few who are intelligent".

 

quote =i think it would be the same god that other stupid people believe in. ............and who are these stupid people mathew? .and what god do you talk about. surely the false one .

 

mathew i believe you are truly a fuck/n gobshite who sits on the fence /but spouts all of this right wing bullshit......

 

Yeah! They seem to believe that all that negative professy is their great god's guide of what to do...

 

Did you come about your religious beliefs on your own? Or did someone preach to you or provide you with religious propaganda? Humans are easily brainwashed. And no, you don't know that God is real, you know nothing of the sort. Believe all you want, but don't fool yourself into thinking you know. Much more evidence points to the belief that once you die, it's lights out. You become bug food. Just like all other living things.

 

.what evidence and by whom? may i ask .what i have seen and wittnesed makes me believe ( know ) that their is certainly a spirit world.

 

Stupid people i was not saying all christians .. just great swathes of them .. you know the people some call 'fundemetal christians' that kind of christian. Any friggin christian that buys into such crap realy. I was thinking Pressed rat was picking and choosing good god over a bad god and the bad god doing the 'evil' bidding and a good god doing all the good stuff...of course this bad god might be satan and Mr Bush is working for satan .. biblical refrences to satan being this and that and maybe other side of god .. madness ? possibly. Thats why i wanted him to explain.

I was asking a question.. i was hoping to get a reply. I think pressed rat assumed i was jusk going to mock him. Not true. Maybe not phrased in the best possible way :&

I hardly sit on the fence.. and i am truly not right wing at all. Ok thats open to interpretaion and based on how far left the person is, doing the accusing..

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well reading that i obviosly offended you.. it explains your response to me.. wich is fine.

 

. off with my head eh mathew..... you tosser. have yer gotta boot missing apart from a screw?

 

Science in general has provided plenty of evidence. You had better do the explaining and why should I believe you?

 

firstly greenthumb i have seen spirit "been touched by spirit" smelt spirit"sensed spirit" and believe i have photographed spirit energy. science can explaine so much agreed . but their are still certain things that science cannot explaine. as i asked you what evidence and by whom firstly " i would appreciate reading your evidence firstly.i am not saying you should believe me.i know that their is a spirit world /you have"nt had any experience of it yet by the sound of it. maybe one day that could change"but the question is =would you still deny it ?. its a two way street " people mock christians so much on their beliefs ok" did/nt certain scientists think the earth was flat at one time?.i will end by saying i am not a religious freak ( religion causes more wars than anything else) i also believe the church has sold out . watching that farce of a funeral last week "pope" sickened me .all of the dictators and corrupt world leaders sitting at the front with a grandstand view " and witnessing prince charlie boy shaking the hand of that evil bastard who orders the slaughter and slaying of men / women/ and children" well if that is the catholic church ( fuck them).it certainly is"nt my idea of christianity. but what also annoys me is the likes of people like mathew ( the mason) with his bullshit comments.my home is my church and i pray to god in my church.its a personall relationship which for me has helped a great deal . judge me as you wish .

 

'off with your head' no..why would i think/want that ?.. I don't realy know what you think.. so can't/won't comment. You calling me a tosser on the grounds of me responding to somebody else and not realy anything to do with your views is a bit strange..anyway , no i don't have a screw missing .. just don't think the way you do..however that may be ?.

'Matthew the mason' ... hahahaha have you a screw loose.. very much a clash of ideologies me thinks..I probably share a lot of your views on certain aspects of this..but just because i don't find christianity or spirituality for that matter 'real' don't think i have not thought about it properly (even if i comes across slightly odd) my views are no less valid or invalid as yours..

Yeah because of religous thought prevailing at the time..same with techtonic plates only being prety much universaly accepted about 30/40 years ago..once it was 'proven' with science the none religous and religous had to take it on board and accept the truth..

So what do you actualy believe in .. what are your fundemental reasonings for life the universe and why we are here etc ..believing in 'spirits' is fine but i can't realy work out how that relates to anything else ?.

 

. just seems to me you dont like christians and christian views very much mathew.i refer to that as a royalist statement from by gone days in britain. correct me if i am wrong (i appologise) if i am "but thought i read in the cult forum that you had mason intentions.techtonic plates only being pretty much universally accepted 30/40 years ago ACCEPTED BY WHOM? sorry you continue with =once it was proven by science .the religious people had to take this on board and except the truth.what truth is that mathew?. tecntonic plates yeah "but the real word christians would use is earthquake.to answer your final question just read my threads on hip forums and then you will workout what i believe in/ fundemental reasonings/ why we are here .jesus mathew do you think i could answer all that in one thread . it would be like doing a 12 hour shift.

 

I think science can explain most everything, or it will at some point in time. Maybe there is no current explanation for certain phenomenon, but there most likely will be in time.
I've seen no convincing scientific evidence for spirits or ghosts or afterlife of any sort.

New discoveries are made constantly and knowledge is built upon. It is the religious that deny and close their minds to these facts, such as evolution.

I have no problem with that.

 

(quote) i think science can explain most everything ' or it will at some point in time . term scientist (cop out) springs to mind .i mean (or it will at some point in time) .same could be said spiritually.(quote) i have seen no convincing scientific evidence for spirits or ghosts or afterlife of any sort. i dont think you will scientifically. can i suggest you type in paranormal websites on your browser button"there are thousands out there" evidence everywhere.you state that (quote)deny and close their minds to these facts"such as evolution. to me there is no denying evolution does"nt exist . once again i would say scientists deny and close their minds as to a paranormal and spiritual world exisisting.........regards

 

Hey, isn't that what al Qaeda is doing and the Taliban did? The parallels are EERIE.

 

Can't win can i..