Islam & Terrorism

fuzzywuz :​

RE: what is lacking is any real historical knowledge of the spread of early Islamic religion. Without it - and I don't feel like doing any work looking it up - I remain firm in my opinion that the SWORD, which is still a prominent symbol of Islam, was a major tool in the spread of Islamic civilization from 700-900 A.D​

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Dear fuzzy ​

You are talking about the period which came after the prophet's dying PBUH , I want to tell the following:​

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Firstly: Moslem's deeds don't mean that they are practicing Islamic teachings; I mean we should not judge Islam according to Moslem's deeds, that's injustice. The bible prohibited fornication, but there are many of Christian people who have sex without marriage is that mean that Christianity allows fornication!!​

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Secondly: you have to read these stuffs not from whom hate Islam. And should read more and more. myself if I want to know the truth about something ex. Hindus I will read Hindus books and ask them and if I will read something has been written about them from non-Hindus I will ask the Hindus if that is true or claims. ​

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Thirdly: read more or join in the Islamic free classes which presenting Islam and many other things that you have to know before reading Quraan, Haddith's, Tafseer's, Islamic books etc. it's exactly like when you want to use windows programs , you have to learn how to use the keyboard and the mouse in the first place.​

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Fourthly: Quraan, Chapter: 2, verse: 256.​

256: There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path…. ​

SO, forcible conversion is prohibited in Islam. The religion did not spread by the sword. There were military confrontations between the Muslim state and the existing world powers of Rome and Persia. However, the areas conquered were put under Muslim administration and the populations were free to maintain their own beliefs. Muslims ruled Egypt, Palestine and Lebanon from the 8th centuries. Muslims ruled Spain for 700 years and India for 1000 years without the vast majority of the population converting to Islam.​

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The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia, having over 200 million citizens, never saw a Muslim soldier. Islam spread there and in Malaysia and Philippines by trade. That was also the case of Islam's spread in West African countries like Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Chad and Niger. Also Islam is the fastest growing religion in America today with anywhere. This is taking place without any soldiers or even missionaries.​

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Fifthly: whenever you see a Moslem forcing the others to convert Islam then he is acting according his desire , even if he will claim that he is doing that in the name of Allah, they have to give their proofs??? What are their proofs which are supporting their deeds according to Islamic teachings?​

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Sixthly: How did Christianity spread in Africa? Why did the Pope Apologized? (You don't have to comment on this because I believe that Christians believe in peace ​

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Seventhly: if I were you m if I were Christian, I will not care how did Islam spread, because what cares me that if Islam is a true religion or false, is Quraan Allah's word or what?​

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Eighthly: if I were Christian and want to know if Islam is false or wrong I will not discuss it's teachings, instructions…, I will firstly want to find out if really Quraan Allah's word or not ( the basic sacred book for Moslems).​

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Ninthly:​

Chapter: 64

12: Obey Allah, and Obey the Messenger (Muhammad); but if you turn away, then the duty of Our Messenger is only to convey (the message) clearly. Not to obligate!!

Chapter: 88​

22: You are not a dictator over them

Chapter: 2​

256: There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path…. ​

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Chapter: 109, verse: 1-6.​

1: Say (O Muhammad to these Mushrikun and Kafirun): '' O Al-Kafirun è(disbelievers in Allah, in his Oneness, in His Angels, in his books, in his messengers, in the day of resurrection, and in Al-Qadarè(Divine Preordainment)! 2: I worship not that which you worship, 3: Nor will you worship that which I worship. 4: And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping, 5: Nor will you worship that which I worship. 6: To you be your religion, ant to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism).'' ​

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Chapter: 6, verse: 108.​

108: And insult (revile) not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allah, …​

we shouldn't judge Islam according to Moslems deeds.
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Fuzzy:

RE: ACTING in the name of their religion…Please explain how Islam is compatible with terrorism....... Ball is in your court......Be clear in your answer.​

Fuzzy: If you think that I am obligating you to whatever, you are then totally wrong. I will repeat it again: It is stupid to blame Islam because of the deeds of rare Muslims in the comparison with huge number of the innocent and guiltless Moslems. Islam is something and terrorist Moslems are something else, they don't have anything supports their claims that their deeds are in the name of Islam, we are mature enough to believe everything has been said, we should make sure by our selves, everybody can claim that he is doing something in the name of whatever. It doesn't mean if you see a bad Moslem that Islam is bad, no, we shouldn't judge Islam according to Moslems deeds. The bible prohibited fornication, but there are many of Christian people who have sex without marriage is that mean that Christianity allows fornication!!

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Fuzzy: if you want to still believe what you want to believe in , then that is up to you , you are free, I had just say what I believe in, and yeah if you watched (abc) news on the 29th of July, they broadcasted an interview with (Shamel Basaieeve) a terrorist Moslem like Osama in Sheshan (Russia). Did you hear what he said? Did he say that Islam orders him to kill the innocent to pressure on the Russian government!! Check up on the matter. Thousand thanks to Allah that he said the truth, I hope that Osama will do like him and link his brutal deeds to his stupid evil desires not to the Islamic teachings.

The imam of Makkah has indeed spoken out against terrorism several times. It is stupidity to blame Islam because of the deeds of rare Muslims in comparison with the huge number of blameless and guiltless Moslems. ​

Moslems are more outraged by the bombings than most because some believe it was done in the name of Islam. It is very easy for a lot of people to say "this was an attack by Muslims, therefore any Muslims are responsible." It's interesting that every time there is an explosion like there was in London, committed by Muslims, the media refers to them as "Islamic terrorists." Consequently, when Terry McVay blew up the Oklahoma building, nobody ever referred to him as a "Christian terrorist." you can argue that the "Islamic terrorists" ARE doing this in the name of religion? I am sure that you must hear at least once in the news, magazine, radio or wherever that Moslems censure these evil brutal deeds! And on the 29th of July the scholars Moslems at USA gave (Fatwa) about Terrorism.​

 

Fuzzy:

RE: Here is something else to consider - for those who think spirituality is good, but organized religion is bad...... spirituality is DEFINITLY good. It is like the soul.
religion is like the body. It is the attempt to put into practice, to bring into everyday life, what the sould feels. So it starts simply....and like any other human undertaking....it develops and evolves.​

*viva*viva*viva*viva*
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RE: spirituality has "bad" things about it if you think of evil as part of spirituality.....
*viva*viva*viva*viva**viva*viva*viva*viva**viva*viva*​

Words of golden​

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I want too to write something to those who think spirituality is good, but organized religion is bad, I think I will write it in new thread; you are all invited buddies , perhaps I will write it here too.​

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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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natural23 :​

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RE: As with all things, religion can be used for good or for bad.​

If the religion itself is true and good, but people who belongs to it used it for bad things according to their own desires, then it is their fault not the religion ​

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My Opinion: If everyone will do as he like and as his desires , whatever he wants, without anything any rules ,if anybody will consider this good and that is bad according to his point of view and desires, I think the answer is clear what will happen. ​

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Look to the life , we can't live this life without rules , each country over the world has its own rules ( constitution ) and without it the world would miss , I think there wouldn't be a life ? every body will kill the other (revenge or whatever) , stealing ,nothing will stop them , now there is rules(constitutions etc) and the crimes are in high levels , what will happen then without rules , Oh my God ( MERCY ) ,So , creatures need rules too from who knows them very well ( of course God the creator)​

Allah stated :
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'' should not he who has created know? ''
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'' should he not know what he created?''
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Chapter:67, verse:14
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I DON'T KNOW WHY MY THREADS THE MOST OF THEM TURNS TO ANOTHER TOPICS BY SOME MEMBERS THAT IS REALLY WEIRD AND FUNNY TOO, ARE THEY PLANNING TO SOMETHING? JUST KIDDING ​

Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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