Islamic terrorists (Jihad)

Discussion in 'Protest' started by gary.newelluk, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    stoney either you know nothing of islam or you are ashamed of your religion, anyone can look at a encyclopedia and see what are considered authentic sources .

    there are online books of haddith on islamic sites, there are online qurans with several translations in english all made by believing muslims .

    most of the sources I qoute from are sahih haddith or the quran
     
  2. stoney69

    stoney69 Member

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    your sources are from anti-islamic websites haha, very credible indeed!
     
  3. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    my sources are from islamic scripture and you know it
     
  4. EwokUtopia

    EwokUtopia Member

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    This is really going down to a grade school debate with you, isnt it? Look, either you believe in freedom of religion, or you dont. If you dont believe in freedom of religion, frankly I dont believe in freedom of your speech.
     
  5. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    pointing out why a religion is false doesnt mean you dont believe in freedom of religion ,
    and Im not suprised ewok that you dont believe in freedom of speech
     
  6. Uriah Heep

    Uriah Heep Banned

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    or Dresden .
     
  7. EwokUtopia

    EwokUtopia Member

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    Freedom of speech has limits. It should have been illegal for people shouting "fuck off you niggers" when Black people first entered desegregated schools. Freedom of speech does not extend to verbal assault, which can cause more harm than physical assault many times. What you have said, Jonny, has personally offended many Muslims more deeply than you or I can imagine. Why do you say it? Quite frankly, the hurt that comes from your freedom of speech and is afflicted on Muslims is comparably to the hurt that comes from Ernst Zundel's freedom of speech and is afflicted on Jews. Before you say one more word, Jonny, let me ask you this one simple question:

    Are you aware how much you hurt and offend people with your "freedom of speech"?
     
  8. gary.newelluk

    gary.newelluk Member

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    I've lost the plot on this topic being that you all keep using long words and terms I just don't get.....

    Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

    You can't punish someone for saying what they think. Its more dangerous not to let them speak.

    If someone speaks out and says bad things like "I'm gonna kill you n*gger" (sorry this is just an example) then its better to hear that person say those words so that other people can condemn them. otherwise that person gets a chance to meet with other people and build an underground alliance which would be far more dangerous.

    The good thing about the KKK and white supremacy lot is that people know who they are and they are laughed at and ridiculed. If they were made to shut up then who know what they'd become because the press could not report the rubbish they spout because they would be abusing freedom of speech.
     
  9. stoney69

    stoney69 Member

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    if people should not be punished for sayin what they think ..whats with the anti-semitic laws ?!

    its time then, for europe, to get all countries to drop these laws ...with humour! after all, its the friggin freedom of speech thats challenged with such laws

    lol, yea well but he's doin it under the cover of "bringin light" to the damned
     
  10. gary.newelluk

    gary.newelluk Member

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    I have the right to say what I like. Equally people have the right not to listen
     

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