Israel Declares War on Hamas (bloodshed again)

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  1. GrayGuy57

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    What the Israeli government SHOULD have done was to use ALL of its resources to target HAMAS, in a manner that would wreak such havoc upon Gaza and the Palestinian people.

    What I CANNOT understand is how Israeli intelligence did NOT pick up ANYTHING on the Hamas attack/abductions, which, from what I have heard, had been several years in the planning.

    There was NO sort of "chatter" or any other sort of inkling that Hamas was planning something deadly and vile?

    NOTHING whatsoever that might have tipped the Israeli government off?

    No "warning bells" on ANY sort?

    This, in itself, is beyond strange..................
     
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    Snti-Semitim is not the same as anti-Jowish, Semitism is an ideology, and the Semitism party runs Israel, so many people all around the world are against Semmitism not Jewish.
     
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    Latest quote from Benjamin "Nentanyahoo", regarding a possible cease-fire:

    "To have a cease fire is to surrender".

    Yes, folks, that's what he said...............
     
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    President Biden is, as I type these words, holding a meeting at the White House (involving a large number of security experts), laying out guidelines for the stopping (or, at least, slowing down) the rising onslaught of anti-Jewish sentiment at schools and college campuses around the nation.

    No respite, no rest, no peace.......NOTHING.......but violence, destruction, intolerance, itense suffering and hatred.......
     
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    Hate and love are not teaching, they are heart feelings, so it doesn't matter Biden whatever says. It depends on the people's feelings.
     
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    The human race, sadly, seems to more easily embrace hatred and intolerance than it does love and understanding.

    It seems as though more people ENJOY being HATEFUL and INTOLERANT, and will not even give love and understanding a chance.

    Good people, no matter what their race, creed, ethnic background, or religion, seem to be more and more an endangered species nowadays.....
     
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    I am so sorry for the people who are governed as slaves by their gaverments, no matter in democratic or dictatorship countries.
    More than fifty years the Iranian people have been governed by an Islamic ideological government.
    The Iranian government has done anything to export his idealogy but improving the people's lives , and forcing people to follow up their stupid social regulations which are even against the Shariat.
    The Iranian gaverments spend millions of dollars for helping and developing the backed milisias all around the world just for extending their iealogy. The suprim leader believes Isreal has to be vanished, he definatlly knows that it is impossible in reality, but for gaverening the people he needs.
    Isreail is an develop country where is supported by most western countries, many of high educated people from all around the world have immigrated to stablish a new lives, so the Iranian foolish supreme leader doesn't know how this well developed land will be wiped up! . The result for Iran is absolutely isolation internationally. But, the Iranian gaverments is a great close supporter for Isreal,
    Israeli governments have known what they have done during the last 75 years after stabilishing the country. All Israeli gaverments have followed an Judaism idealogy to stabilize the promise land during the last 75 years, by forcing the Palestinian out from their home land. Consequently, Iran is one the greatest gaverments who coused the western states particularly America to support Isreail financially, technologically as well as many other aspects against Iran. The Israeli gaverments have known perfectly that it is impossible buy peace by kicking Palestinian out of their home. So the innecens Jewish Israeli are hostage in their government's hands.
    American and Western countries really don't like peace in Middle East, because they need the oil incomes of the Middle East countries to sell their army products as much as possible. So, all the Middle East nations are hostages by their gaverments.
    I am so sorry for the Middle East people, because their generation after generations have lived in a war zones as a holy land for more than 3000 years, where there is no bright situations of peace in far futures.
     
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    Just heard on the news that hate crimes against Jews are up over 400% in this country alone.

    A person of interest is now being held who was supposed to mastermind a grisly and despicable attack on Jewish students at Cornell University.

    Sickening...............
     
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    Ethnic cleansing.

    Since October 7th, "settlers" (Zionist terrorists) in the West Bank, backed by the IDF and encouraged by the wink-and-a-nod of Benjamin Netanyahu have killed at least 115 Palestinians, injured more than 2,000 more, and forcibly displaced almost 1,000 (From Jan. 2023 through Oct. 6, 197 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank).
    In Gaza, where over 8,300 Palestinians have been killed and over 20,000 wounded (that toll includes over 3,400 children killed and more than 6,300 injured - more than 420 children are being killed or injured in Gaza each day) the Rafah border checkpoint into Egypt has been opened for the first time since the current war began, and a "concept paper" has been leaked detailing what many have suspected has been the objective since day one; a "Final Solution" to Israel's Palestinian problem; expulsion. Forcibly driving the Palestinian population of Gaza and the West Bank across the Egyptian frontier into the Sinai Desert, then finally annexing the last vestiges of Palestine.
    Nakba 2.0.

    West Bank: Spike in Israeli Killings of Palestinian Children
     
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    "Ethnic cleansing", sad to say, comes in many forms and guises; it is a frightening concept, no matter what ethnic group (s) are involved.

    The Native American is a prime (and sobering) example of "ethnic cleansing"...........
     
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    A systematic Ethnic Cleansing have started actually after the WI and it speeded after word war tow in Palestine.
    Many massocurs have happened in Daire Yasin, Sabra and Shakila, Kafar Gasem, and many many other refugy camps during the last 75 years.
    The ultimate aim is kicking out all the Palestinian in Gaza and West Bank, if they can't do it the will try to genesis them as they are doing now in Gaza.
    Zeiunism is an political idea, that many Jwishs are not agreed. So any miss jugment is not right.
     
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    why are the Palestinian people hated so? Why hasn't the world community condemned Israel for these attacks? If Russians were killing little Ukrainian children at the rate we are seeing in Gaza - imagine what the world community would be saying. Is it due to the fear of speaking against Jews? Personally, I cannot justify the way this is going. Turning off water and food supply, and electricity, and attacking and killing to justify the Hamas attacks - seems off balanced. I cannot justify Hamas. But I cannot justify Israel.
    And I certainly cannot justify billions of US dollars in aide going there for this.
    It seems different than Russia invading Ukraine.
     
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    Papa:

    It would seem that, at least IMHO, that "Netan-yahoo" has now forgotten the Hamas atrocities of a few weeks back, and is now simply showing off his military might, flexing his "war muscle", and wanting to be seen as a formidable "war leader" who will not back down.

    "LOOK AT ME, WORLD! NO ONE IS GOING TO BULLY ME, OR MAKE ME BACK DOWN!"

    Recall, now, if you will, the thousands upon thousands of innocent Japanese who lost their lives in the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    There has never been, and NEVER will, be a war where thousands of innocent people (on either side of the conflict) are killed.

    One of Mom's history teachers made this comment on war:

    "War is nothing but a feast for vultures."

    How right this wise woman was......................
     
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    I am of the opinion that this is not about Hamas at all... but it is Netanyahu's and the right-leaning government to simply destroy Gaza... where were they when Hamas attacked and killed the concert goers, or swept through the villages nearby?
    Why did the Army bomb the refugee camp - only to claim they killed a Hamas leader - among the many others who were killed or injured?
    When they wipe it out completely, their mission will be accomplished. Will the world forget? Does anyone care about the innocent lives of little children and old ladies?
     
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    When there is NO REGARD whatsoever for life, not even the life of an unborn child and its pregnant mother, you KNOW you are dealing with forces representing, pure, unadulterated EVIL.

    IMHO, I think that the hideous Hamas attacks only served to give "Nentan-yahoo" the excuse he had long been waiting for; to wage a long and destructive war against Palestine.

    Why?

    I am sure I do not have the slighteted idea.

    "Nentan-yahoo" clearly, as I type these words, is on a full-fledged "power trip"; he cares little for the lives of the innocent, and is, IMHO, using the Hamas vermin as a valid excuse to destroy Gaza and inflict great suffering upon so many thousands of innocent Palestinian people.

    I once thought differently about this man.....however, that was THEN, this is NOW....................
     
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    If a nation wants to live in peace, they should be strong, otherwise the weak nation will be crushed.
    It happens exactly in Palestine. Isreail after stabilishing has started to developed economically, and technologically, of course by supporting USA and the European countries. On the other side Palestinian because of lacking of a separate state without any gaverments or leader, couldn't grow up to defend themselves, so they have been kicked out and settled in refugy camps to die gradually. Consequently, Israeli gaverments genecesed them several times during the last 75 years.
     
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    Remember, not so very long ago, that the world watched daily the graphic images of Russian attacks on Ukraine.

    Today, we are now in the grips of a new world drama, one that has almost entirely eclipsed our concern for the Ukranians.

    In both wars, it is, by far, the INNOCENT people........from the youngest to the oldest........who are enduring the most heartbreak and suffering.

    Look at the mile after mile of near total destruction in the Ukraine; now, we are seeing heartbreaking scenes from Gaza that are far too reminiscent of the aftermath of Hiroshima.

    I am sickened by both the dramatic rise in anti-Jewish sentiments, and just as sickened by the horrendous suffering of innocent Palestinians, and, of course, the American citizens still without a way to escape to safety.

    We are, quite effectively, blasting our way back to the Stone Age.........
     
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