Israel want a war with Iran. Fight it on your own dime.

I think we need to instead honor Howard Baskerville this year. I think that would do a lot for US middle east relations.

In case you haven't heard of him:

http://www.howardbaskerville.com/

 

does anyone even listen to him anymore? osama is soooo yesterday man.

if everyone stopped listening to him along with all,the other idiots running the world maybe a lot of our problems would go away.

 

Lol - that be nice wouldn't it.

The other problem is, those that seek to misrepresent what has been said, or just plainly don't get what has been said - in context.

We live in the tower of babel, guy.
Getting rid of the idiots would only solve a small fraction of the worlds ills, imo.

 

i couldn't agree with you more. which foreign intelligence agencies do you suspect post here?but yes, america's blind support of the modern state of israel is ruining any credibility america has left in the eyes of the rest iof the world. it's pretty bad when the last president who actually had the balls to stand up to israel (eisenhower) was himself a swedish jew by ancestry. i don't oppose jews living in that part of the world, i do however oppose that it's ruled over by nationalists who refuse to give any reaosnable say in how things are run to it's muslim and christian citizens. i also oppose the fact that some try to say israel has never attacked anyone without being provoked.

i also oppose the fact that issues regarding Israel are treated with greater importance than many domestic issues are. i also oppose presidents who overload their administrations with israeli firster warhawks. yes, obama is guilty of this too. jews might not control everything that happens on earth, but placing them disproportianately in high numbers in important insitutions and industries gives way to the idea that they do control everything. if you bought your way into many places and loaded them up with sayanims. you too could be all powerful and very influential.

your mention of foreign intelligence infilltrating reminds me of the fox news report about israeli spy rings in america porior to and during 9/11. anyone who claims to be our friend and ally, but turns around and steals intelligence secrets from us, they simply cannot be trusted.

 

its too late

your country has beeen destroyed by these people

the best thing you could do is make sure you get everyone you know to vote these people out. america still has very low voter turnout, this is why religious organisations have so much sway - they instruct their members to vote. the dumb plebs who don't vote live with consequences of not voting.

the longer you allow these people into the halls of power the greater your misery will be.


if you can stay out of gaol until obamas reign comes to an end you must vote and get as many plebs to vote but not vote democratic or republican.

the truth is this probably won't happen, your country will just keep being drained to achieve the objectives of another power - this is the history of the world my friend, the best thing you can do is save yourself.

 

you are misinformed, christians and muslims israelis are well represented in the israeli government. you are thinking about the palestinians who are not israeli citizens.

you have every right to oppose what ever you want, but don't interchange "jew" with "israeli"

 

sorry

free thinking people don't take orders from religious fanatics

thanks for letting us oppose what we want but we have to understand that israel can strike who it wants and when.

good luck with your war on humanity

 

Well now we are being given ultimatums:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200903u/netanyahu

Do you think he'd be so bold if he thought Israel would have to go it alone? And why should he feel that his agenda is our agenda?

All through the campaign McCain was telling us the US had to build more nuclear plants for energy, why is anyone viewing the Iranian nuclear developments as anything more than that? And if it's right for the western world to do to conserve energy and deal with global warming then why is it wrong for Iran to be developing an energy program along the same lines?

 

A heavy, credible, depresing, article from The Times of London:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6024654.ece

 

iran has sat and watched as two of its neighbours have been attacked by armies under the control of religious extremists.

iran has seen that the end of negotiations leads to attack no matter how the dice is thrown

the iranians if they have had any sense should by now have had enough time to prepare for an attack.

when the blitzkreig comes if they haven't formulated a defense response of the same overwhelming magnitude then i'm afraid iran is history and the attack on more countries is inevitable.

negotiation has been at an end for quite some time, the sanctions on iran were the first attack by weakening the country very slowly. now will come the same slow drum beat for war by the fanatics.

 

Piney got to love this bit from your link about Ahmadinejad.

So if Israel doesn't like who another country elects that gives them the authority to attack? I still say if they wish to take this tack it needs to be made clear to them that they are going it alone.

Also I haven't forgotten or forgiven them for what they have done to Palestine or Lebanon. The media may not be covering the public outrage any longer, but it's still there.

It's funny how press on the fact that these nuclear facilities in Iran are for the generation of power are all but relegated to the back pages.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/iran-tests-its-first-nucl_n_169751.html

 

This may be of interest to some of you. It deals with Israel's nuclear capabilities:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/dimona.htm

(Bolding added by me.)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/reveal/index.html

I don't remember us threatening to bomb Israel and Dimona wasn't built to provide power.

 

All the talk that Israel's outrageous response to Gaza's rockets were about the endangerment of civilians was not the whole story. It wasn't about whether or not their families were directly endangered by rockets or suicide bombers. It was all about the possible endangerment of their secret nuclear facility. Imagine how differently the two motives could be received by the world public. Which would instill more sympathies? Which would explain the gross extreme reaction and justify the killing of innocent trapped civilians in Gaza?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5430133.ece

 

http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

 

It's time for the US public to speak out about things like this:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239633076339&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

I am sorry but if Israel wants a missle program let them fund it themselves.

 

[name one christian or muslim elected official in israel. not palestine, i know of none. israel's talmudic government does not recognsie anyone but jews as being true israelis.




quote=mai;5399302]you are misinformed, christians and muslims israelis are well represented in the israeli government. you are thinking about the palestinians who are not israeli citizens.

you have every right to oppose what ever you want, but don't interchange "jew" with "israeli"[/quote]

 

it's funny that obama is being portrayed as an agent of diplomacy in regards to iran. yet, he fills his cabinet up with people who obviously want iran nuked as soon as possible. including rahm emmanuel and hillary clinton

if you want a truly middle eastern perspective on whats; going on over there. check out http://www.currentissues.tv/

 

what is strange is that jewish israelis who are not aligned with a rabbi think that they have a stake in israeli society. when the time comes the religious right will purge israel of all jews who are not religious and not under the wing of an approved rabbi.

the laws of the old testament are quite strict about people who do not conform to god's orders. for the meantime the religious right simply multiply, every year brings new fanatics for the cause and when the time comes they will send the lesser jews off to battle and die for the cause, or put the squeeze on them, unless they are enrolled in a yeshiva say they can't get various benefits or perhaps they have to earn lower wages for being the lesser form of god's chosen people??

david you might remember sent some bloke to die in a battle so he could have sex with his wife - nice fellah. rabin pointed this out to the religious people - they killed him. make no mistake by hook or crook the religious fanatics will do to the jewish people what they have always done - cause them much anguish and heartache.