israeli products,fruits etc....

Have one,

http://www.alternet.org/audits/89117/?ses=70ca4f3205b1c1b557de44de37b1d6e9




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Do not bring events from hundreds or thousands of years ago into current day issues. Especially biblical stories. Christians killed of entire civilizations of people in their european 'age of exploration' in order to conquer land in the name of nationalism and in the name of god. Their goal was to convert civilizations they encountered and make them become slaves. If they did not convert they were killed. They did this throughout all of south america with the aztecs incans or whoever was around at the time. they did it with almost the entire native american population up here in north america. not to mention africa where they obviously raped the entire seaboard and sent them all over the world. With hundreds of them in the bottom of ships for weeks with barely enough room to breath, nor eat the little food that they might have been lucky enough to fend away from the other 50 men, women and half dead children surrounding them.

And i am not boycotting europe or the americas. But your boycotting a nation because they came to existance by displacing and killing off some people on a mere 9,000 square foot area. And maybe some of their political veiws? pfft.

 

Tales from the "other" side.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/



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http://arabnews.com/?page=9&section=0&article=111383&d=1&m=7&y=2008

Apartheid Israel.

Boycott Israeli goods.

If we can bury Iran beneath mountains of trade restrictions and freeze assets, why can't we punish Israel in the same fashion?

Make the people hurt so they stick it to their government. Thats our usual MO in countries that seem to deserve our attention.

Now, our attention needs to focus on Israel, and what's happening over there with the help of your US taxpayer dollars. (For the past 60 years)

Boycott Israeli goods.



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I think I will boycott the one thing that I know my country imports from Israel and that is war. While our buildings were still crumbling and the smoke was still churning your ambassadors were on the media calling for expanded war in the middle east. We didn't even know what or who hit us. How did you know before we did? If you had advance knowledge why didn't you try to prevent it?

And as to the claim that Israel is leading the world in computer advancements. Think again:

http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp...DispWhat=object&enVersion=0&enZone=Technology

And that was probably made possible by the US foreign support this country receives. Who actually footed the bill for that Center in Haifa, all Israeli funds? Or were US jobs outsourced and Israelis trained by dislocated US tech workers, who are now told they have to retrain, so they can clean motels, and blow driveways? Much as the Palestians have been dislocated, walled off, and then denegrated.

But as far as tech jobs don't think you have the market cornered. Multinational companies pulled the same stuff with India and Pakistan and most of those jobs have moved to Indonesia or China. Unless Israel has unreasonable political influence, they too will find their tech jobs going to the lowest bidder.

You may soon face competition from Vietnam:

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2006/01/05/intel-to-build-605m-chip-plant-in-vietnam

MultiNational companies don't care who they exploit.

In two years their investment was upped from 605 million to a billion.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8955618

And this is a country we spent billions of dollars on a war with, and lost thousands of lives to? Go figure? How are your prideful Isreali innovators going to feel when the only job you can find is one guarranteed for six months training your Vietanmese replacement? Still going to brag?

 

New addition to my gallery.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/showphoto.php/photo/167076/cat/500/ppuser/78338


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The US government has given Israeli 1 trillion dollars since they became a nation & billions of dollars each year is still being continued, out of our fucking tax payer dollars! The US government needs to stop funding a terrorist nation such as Israeli & stop feeding us propaganda telling us to like it.

 

Time to pop this bubble. Don't you agree?

Education of the American public will bring change.

Ya'll need to hurry.


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by this reasoning the fanatics can justify almost anything dished out onto the palestinians. some palestinian guy was held up and blindfolded whilst some charming fellow from the israeli army shot him. it was his bad luck that he was caught red handed shooting him.

its about time everyone just gave up on the mad fantasies of religious fanatics and tried to be a little bit more constructive instead. the only way of making these people a little more reasonable is by turning off the money supply, without money these organisations whither.

 

Sounds like a typical Jew hater to me. Get A life!

 

How many typical Jew haters do you know?


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not every criticism of israel equals anti-semitism
but the conflict in the middle east is not as simple as presented here (i.e "all Isreal's fault")
I think that viewing of world conflicts in a one sided manner is harmful . It's never so simple.

I'd like to quote a very wise comment I read in a Palestinian blog (here). I think this guy has a very balanced approach which will be beneficial to anyone wishing to actually solve this conflict (I'm actually quoting a comment to a typical Israel bashing article, both the article and the comment were written by Palestinians) :

 

Watch Israeli soldiers beat Palestinian children. Then boycott Israel.

http://www.redress.cc/palestine/jgulledge20080905


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xexon I think that your anti-Israeli posts are not only misleading in their one-dimensional view of a highly complex conflict , but are ultimately unhelpful to the Palestinian cause. If it is Palestine you care about (and not your own moral purity) then I suggest you invest the same energy in finding a reasonable solution. A reasonable solution will include Israel and most probably a democratic system in Palestine. Encouraging hatred will not help, there is already plenty of it to go round. And as you can see ,hatred is often directed against one's own people. About Zionism – you are misusing the word. Firstly very few Israelis identify with Zionism as such, most of them were just born there and see their struggle as survival. Also Zionism says very little about territorial expansion. Zionism basically means the belief in a national homeland for the Jews. In many ways similar to the Palestinian belief in their right to have a national homeland. If you find Zionism morally wrong (and you have every right to) then you must deny the rights of Palestinians to their own national homeland. Of course for the Palestinians its a matter of life or death, they have no other option because no country would take them (ask yourself why were the people of Gaza without any political rights when it was a part of Egypt) , just like the Jews....

 

Consider me a counterweight to the one sided view people have had dished out to them for the past several decades.

I am NOT encouraging hatred. I encourage education so that a solution can be approached. That solution is the end of radical zionism and the hold it has over both our countries.

Zionism is the correct word, but there are two kinds of zionism.
You must understand that the zionism I speak of is not the religious kind, but purely political. I have no resevations at all in comparing this movement with the Nazis. None at all. It's a Jewish supremacist movement. Secular in nature, but it uses the faithful in the execution of it's agenda.

Second. I don't believe in a homeland for the Jews. Jews are followers of a religion and thats all. They are not a race. And all the Jews in Israel, 95% of them aren't even semite. They have no connection or claim to this land as the ancient Israelites did. The people who are now known as Palestinians are semites, not the European Jews who have taken control of Israel.

I will never support a religious state. I don't care what religion it is.

Nothing but a polarized society can come from it. And so it has.


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Zionism IS a political movement. It's a secular movement which goes against the core of Jewish religious teaching. But it's not a supremacist movement, it simply calls for homeland to the Jewish people, how is it different from the call for a homeland to the Palestinian people?
You can say that the whole idea of a nation-state is racist and you may have a point, but then again ,you will have to withdraw your support from a Palestinian state if you want to keep your principals. Are you saying that you are against a homeland for the Palestinians ?

Are you suggesting that only those that constitute a race are entitled to a homeland? 'race' is a social concept , it has no objective existence.

Let's say we follow your suggestion and cancel the state of Israel. What do you propose to do with the people there? I can see only two options- allowing them to immigrate to the US (unlikely) or allowing them to stay in a Palestinian country which basically means they will get slaughtered (I don't think many Israelies will support this option)

Again , what is your solution?

Israel is not a religious state. It has more religious freedom than any country in the middle east. Israel is the only country in the middle east where you can easily convert to Buddhism or Hinduism or follow any kind of cult you want, you can denounce the bible, you can be homosexual or lesbian openly, you can publish anti-government materials etc. In any other country in the middle east you would be shot for that. Israel is a beacon of enlightenment compared with its neighbors, which is not to say it is a saintly state , but you need some proportions...

 

Mai, I've been researching this for over 30 years now. I stand by eveything I've said.

My point of view didn't materialize overnight.

The only future Israel has is one of a united country, or it has no future at all. I'm quite serious here.

The whole subject if this thread is boycott, for whatever reasons. Israel has a long, long history of human rights violations against it's non Jewish populations. It's financed largely by the United States, and it needs to stop.

Read this, and you'll get an understanding of what life is life for indigenous "Palestinians" in Israel. http://www.p4pd.org/lifestories1.html




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researched for 30 years? that's very impressive, so what is your solution?


Is it a Jewish/Palestinian united entity? If that so , I'm quite surprised that someone who researched the Middle East for 30 years would come up with something like that. It is quite obvious that such a country will immediately deteriorate into a Yugoslavia style civil war, I mean you really think that rich Jews with European culture could live in the same country with extremely poor Arabs with a Middle Eastern culture ? The only way they wouldn't slaughter each other is in a hardcore dictatorship like in Iran, Syria etc where strict dictatorship protects the country from civil war. Look at Lebanon and see what happens when different ethnicities attempt to live together in a Middle Eastern democracy.
Have you ever been to Asia? I find that many Westerners pay lip service to the concept of 'respecting other cultures' without really understanding that other cultures are VERY different from us. It would perhaps have been possible if both Jews and Arab were economically similar and both coming from a long democratic tradition , but in the current situation it's just a fantasy. I don't think the millions of Jews and Arabs in Israel would like to risk the lives of their families in such experiment I know for a fact that there are very few Palestinians who support this solution .
This is way I think that calling for this sort of solution is a waste of energy.

I find this a very short sighted remark from someone who researched for 30 years. Do you think they are doing for fun? Out of cruelty?



I do agree though that a comprehensive solution should be found. If that's what you are after then I support you , but I think the boycotting of Israel is not the way

 

as i said before , unless the money tap is turned off to these idiots this conflict will continue and in 50 years time the religious fanatics will still be talking up the war. since yitzak rabin was knocked off by the religious fanatics things have got worse not better.

from a historical perspective in another couple of hundred years "israel" probably won't even exist, it will be relegated back to the wet dream of the fanatics.

if god even existed wouldn't he smite these evil doers who harm his chosen people? oh thats right he wants them to stand on their own two feet thats why he allowed 6 million of them to be gassed and tortured in the death camps. it was all in his plan obviously, because he loves them (apart from the ones who died apparently)

if you have ever looked up from your torah/ bible whatever and looked up into the sky of a night you might see a surprising thing ....AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

do you think there is no other life out there apart from fighting over some dirt that god (who incidentally hasn't bothered talking to anyone directly since moses - supposedly) has given you?

give it up, turn off the money tap and the problem will go away.

 

do you mean to say that if America stopped supporting Israel financially , the conflict will end by itself? I can't see how that will happen. Even if the Palestinian will somehow conquer Israel and kill all the Jews, the Middle East will still be in a state of conflict alternating between dictatorship and civil wars.

The Middle East is not a mess because of Israel. That's just an excuse. There are many reasons for it but three are paramount:
1. Imperialism - Britain, Turkey and France ruled by 'divide and conquer' they made sure all the different ethnicities hate each other so they can be ruled easily. They later went on to create state that made absolutely no sense - look at Iraq , half Kurdish, half Sunni, half Shea (yes I know it doesn't add up to one...) .
2. Modern economy doesn't play well with Middle Eastern countries. Why is that ? that really depends on your point of view ,but its a fact that besides Israel and Turkey ,no country in the Middle East has a normal economy.
true there are oil states like Saudi Arabia, but their economy depends entirely on oil . My own opinion is that Colonialism played a part , because the rulers of most Arab countries chose to employ Socialist measures ,partly as a political stance against the West (of course Socialism led to poverty)
3. Dictatorship - all Middle Eastern countries are dictatorships (excluding Israel and Turkey) (oh and Lebanon which doesn't actually have a functioning government)

in the case of Israel/Palestine conflict all three play an important part (the 3rd one in sort of an indirect way, don't forget that Syria, Jordan, Iran and Egypt are all deeply involved in this conflict)

guy, Judaism is against the state of Israel. According to Jewish law the state of Israel should be ruled by a king appointed by God. The secular ,pork eating government of Israel is an insult to Judaism,
Israel is a secular state, It is the only state in the Middle East that offers religious freedom. Only in Israel you will find Buddhism, Hare Krishna, Transendental Meditation or whatever.
A vast majority of Israelis do not want to keep Gaza and the West Bank as parts of Israel (indeed these parts are not officialy part of Israel according to Israeli law) . The main reason they don't turn it into a Palestinian state today is that they don't trust the Palestinians to not attack them once they get their own army going. It has very little to do with Judaism (as I said most Israelis are secular) or Imperialism or whatnot. It's a matter of survival (from their point of view)
You have every right to claim that they are wrong, but you must understand the reasons behind it.