It's the END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Firstly, everyone is entitled to their own views, but I dont particularily believe in God. I do, on the other hand, believe in science, admire science, and I would never say all of science is based on theories. If it was, then how, for instance, would I be writing this? Secondly, I think that the sun ideas is quite plausible, but that humans shall destroy themselves. I mean, three animals grow extinct EVERY SINGLE DAY because of US. Gone for ever. And really I think they would be better off without us. I do think that the world will definately end, and im not going to argue with that. I will not battle with the forces of nature, it is already greatly angered by our torment to its body.
Thankyou.

 

All lame things must come to pass

If you don't believe in god, then logically, theres no reason it shouldn't end sometime

If you DO believe in god, it even has a whole goddamn chapter in the bible about the world ending

It has to end eventually, its illogical to say it won't.

 

Define "it". The title says "the world", but we seem very unclear on what that is. Current theory dictates that heat death is inevitable, but I don't know, there's the concept of parallel universes... seems like we could probably keep running for a while.

 

I don't find it illogical for the world to not end. Even if it does, the human race could still prosper if we play our cards right.

 

You don't think we're part of nature? I mean, it'd be unnatural for us not to do everything in our power to survive, right? I mean, I'm sure I heard somewhere that there's only about four species that actually commit suicide, I know we're among them, but even so, doesn't seem like it's a popular trait.

 

I doubt enough people would commit suicide for it to do too much damage to our race.

 

My point was more that just letting death happen isn't natural.

 

With regard to my post #75:
I wasn't "trying to say" something. I said something, and I meant exactly what I said. Re-read my last two sentences. Or, re-read my entire message, if it's not too far out of your way.

Intelligence is not a 'smarter than' game in my opinion (when attempting interspecies comparisons), any more than one so-called mountain is better than or worse than or more important than another. Intelligence may be operationally defined as an organism's success in responding to environmental challenges. You might say that a chimpanzee who can't read or do arithmetic is like a fish without a bicycle.

 

I apologise, it seemed like the logical reason for you to be saying what you were at the moment that you said it. The context seemed to imply that you were making a point about different types of intelligence and such. People often talk about animals "not needing" human intelligence, as if most humans need it either.

 

I never saw this post before but I completely agree (not sure about the whole universe ending stuff). I find it hard to predict the supposed end of the earth, much less this entire universe. Also, me and my mom also found it funny that the people who believe in the end of the world are usually people who are hobos with signs or are down on their luck, as you said. I'm not sure why you'd want to try and scare people with this prediction anyway. Instead, just in case something like this were to happen, wouldn't it be better to find ways to prepare for some sort of escape in case? And as far as the bible is concerned, I see it as being more of something that may spread out some of God's beliefs but it isn't in his own words. I think that it's mainly changed to suit whoever's religion that's writing it. Regarding the end of the world in the bible, since it wasn't actually written by God, I'm just going to discredit it. Btw, something funny to think about is that if there is a God (there's a real strong possibility of it), the end of the world is up to him so if he wants the world to end, it'll end. If he doesn't want it to end, it won't.

 

Re: heat death

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death

It's only a theory, but it's a bloody depressing one.

 

I believe the universe will continue to expand, stars will continue to die at a rate faster then they are being created, and eventually the universe will die because there is no heat or energy left.

There isn't intelligent life close enough to us that this will ever be a problem. Even if we could somehow travel at light speed it'd be one hell of a chance finding other intelligent life because the universe is something like 10 billion light years across from what we understand.

 

It's very possible there are billions of races out there. Even if ours ends, that doesn't mean the universe ends as well. That's impossible to predict.

 

By universe, I mean everything, not just earth/our solar system/our galaxy

 

Yeah, I know, and I'm saying it's impossible to predict the complete end of time because it's not going to happen.

 

So everything just lasts for eternity? All stars have a fuel source, hydrogen. Nothing lasts forever unless it's frozen in time. Everything is always moving, changing, birthing, dying. It just takes millions to billions of years in the universes grand scale.

 

These phrases like 'up to him' and 'if he wants' are mysterious. Drop an ice cube into boiling water. Does the ice cube want to melt? Does this God want the ice to melt? Perhaps a European, patriarchal, God is talking to the ice cube. The ice cube is praying for God to allow her to melt. Only in that way will the ice cube's sins be forgiven.

Then again, maybe the ice cube is terrified of melting. After all, her identity, all she knows, is how to be a rigid mass of hydrogen oxide with certain weak chemical bonds holding her together due to her relatively low mean molecular kinetic energy. Now she's being bombarded by rogue molecules having much higher kinetic energy, and those beautiful ice chemical bonds are being shattered. This is Death! Goodbye, icy crystalline symmetry! Hello, unremarkable lukewarm water!

In her terror, she prays! For it is written, "He who believeth in Me shall not perish, but shall find everlasting Ice!"

 

I'm not saying everything in the universe will last forever, just that the whole universe ending won't happen. Planets will probably die but at the same time more may be born. As I've said before, it just doesn't seem feasible for anyone to predict the end of the universe.

 

And has science ever predicted the end to the universe? no.... they may have predicted the sun explding, but thats only the earth being detorsyed or 'dying'... so what your prblem with science?

 

Scientists aren't predicting the end of time because we don't really fully understand what time is yet, but they can extrapolate the effects of entropy to guess roughly how long it will take for all the energy in the universe to run out, to the point where everything is at absolute zero and movement of any kind would be impossible.