It's WAR in the Middle East!

There are several load bearing members of our "coalition" that are on the verge of internal meltdown. Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia. They've all got dryrot because of their association in our mess. The radical part of Islam is likely to make them pay for it.

Then there's Israel. Rogue nation that bites the hand that feeds. A loose cannon with 150-200 nuclear warheads. Their final solution.

Future's so bright, you better wear shades.


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So you want Egypt to open its border so Hamas can hide in the Sinai on Egyptian territory and smuggle weapons as much as they like so it basically shifts from being Israel's problem to Egypt's...Add that to the people abandoning their homes in Gaza and leaving it to the Israeli settlers.

Nah Egypt isn't that stupid, or at least I hope so.

 

I hope you broke open the champagne Rat, that's quite a victory for you.

It isn't occupied, that's a simple fact. The settlements were removed, and the occupation ended. Perhaps the conspiracy websites you memorise and repeat aren't up to date on that.

A complete stranglehold? Then why are hundreds of rockets being launched from within Gaza? That's strange, its as if you haven't the faintest clue what you are talking about.

Typical gardener. First you don't even realise Gaza has a border with Egypt, now you are complaining that Hamas isn't allowed to smuggle weapons through it.

 

I was always aware Egypt contolled one border, but their control of the border was governered by US aid and Israeli leverage. Otherwise why did Israel's bombing of the tunnels go uncovered by international media during the cease fire? If Egyptian border control is soley controlled by the Egyptians, then fully open it to humanitarian aid. Why not?

 

How do we know there aren't Israeli secret forces lobbing rockets into Israel from Gaza? Just trying to provoke a war.

 

It is open to humanitarian aid and the wounded Palestinians get treated inside the borders of Egypt and then they're sent back.

 

No Israel would like to say that's a fact so that they can cut off all aid and traffic to Gaza. They've already come out with that viewpoint. If Egypt allows traffic then Egypt is responsible for all water, and aid to Gaza. Israel is off the hook.

 

Please outline how that takes place. Sent back to be confined by Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

 

How do they get acrrosed the borders? Do they use the tunnels? Or do they have wounded passports/papers that let them into Egypt, then once they are healed they are sent back?

 

Usually after they're treated within Egypt they hide in Egyptian homes in the Sinai because of course their status to stay any longer is illegal, and many of them are Hamas members or have close affiliations to them...Hamas in turn is in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood which would cease the slightest opportunity to topple the Government and turn Egypt into another Iran... So the police goes door to door picking them up and sending them back...
Its complicated.

Read the article it will explain a lot more about whats going on there at the crossing.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/12/30/63097.html

 

How do these humanitarian acts help the Gaza residents?

 

Did you check the link?

 

Hiptastic,

Loony conspiracy theorists aside, even the United Nations still refer to Palestine as the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

Israel refuses to recognise the democratically elected government of Palestine, which means they cannot recognise their sovereignty (because an unoccupied people even have the right to elect belligerent leaders) and if they do not recognise Palestinian sovereignty then Palestine is under de facto occupation.

I wasn't really aware that anybody, even Israel, disputed that the territory was occupied

 

Yeah I check it out:

 

That quote you posted isn't from the article, if you read it it says that the border has been open since the Israeli strikes started letting in aid from a few other countries too and recently closed after a border guard got 2 bullets in the chest from the Gazan side.

 

Its the Egyptian border. Once again you find it terribly unjust that Israel doesn't allow arms smuggling to a regime dedicated to its own destruction. Why?

But was it uncovered? Or are you just making up facts again.

WHy don't you ask the Egyptians? It is hilariously naive the way you are so mystified - if Israel and the USA aren't at fault, how could a problem possibly exist? Hard to imagine isn't it gardener! Its beyond the realm of possibility!

Well gardener, one hint is the fact that they publicly take credit for the attacks. Honestly, how can you not figure that out?

But again, this is your mentality. I keep asking you how these attacks can be justified, and you can't think of a reason, so you think "oh well Hamas wouldn't do anything bad, only Israel does bad things. Aha! It must be Israel doing the rockets."

I mean it is really inexcusable that you would look at rocket attacks that Hamas and other terrorist groups publicly take responsibility for, and just tune out their confessions and go looking for a way to blame Israel. Its pathetic.

 

That was a cut an paste from the article you linked to. l saw nothing about your claim of two bullets to the chest. Perhaps you need to post another link.

 

Keep the spin up. You'll convince a few, but many of us are on to the tactics of those that wish to spin this conflict out of control.

 

Here is the whole thing

 

Much like Saadam had WMD and bombed the towers. The sky is falling, but I am afraid it's falling on you.