It's WAR in the Middle East!

xexon for once you’ve said some things I can agree with. But the real problem isn’t the Israelis, the Palestinians or Zionism, it’s much bigger than that and these things are just the symptoms of the much larger problem.

 

You're right. She did side-step a little

Apparently she is also anti-Semitic, but that has yet to be proven.

 

Well, this all goes back to the New World Order.

Those of us who follow along can see these things coming far in advance. Israel has a mission in the world that is not evident.

It is the firing pin of a one world government. A secular Jewish supremacist movement, as they seem to think they alone can lead what left of humanity to some kind of worldy utopian society later on.

Under their rule.

Unless you want to lay down and give up, you should be kicking Israel and this movement in the balls about now. Repeatedly. Cause they don't understand they're not the chosen people.

You want your kids growing up under this kind of system? If you don't, you better get busy and let your representives know about it. You better build a fire under them, or you're going to wind up belonging to someone who will treat you as cattle.




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There you go, that's the old xexon I've come to know.

Can't see the forest for the trees, blinded by Zionism so much you can't see who picking your pocket while you watch.

 

This is my first post in this forum so I hope I can keep it brief.

Xenon, Comparing the actions of the Israeli's to the Nazis does nothing to strengthen your point . During World War II the Nazis killed 65% of Europe's Jewish population. Between September 2000 and November 2008, just under 5000 palestinians died in Israel and Gaza or 0.00125% of the population. Over that period the population of Palestinians increased by nearly 25%. Amazing when you consider the suffering inflicted upon them by the Israeli's.

According to official Arab statistics, 856,000 Jews left their homes in Arab countries from 1948 until the early 1970s.
Some 600,000 resettled in Israel.
Their descendants, and those of Iranian and Turkish Jews, now number 3.06 million of Israel's 5.4 to 5.8 million Jewish citizens. Fewer than 70,000 Jews (some estimates place the number at fewer than 50,000) presently live in all Arab and Muslim non-arab states.
I wonder if any of the Arab countries are willing to take them back?

The World Organization of Jews from Arab Countries (WOJAC) estimates that Jewish property in Arab countries would be valued today at more than $300 billion and Jewish-owned real-estate left behind in Arab lands at 100,000 square kilometers (four times the size of the State of Israel). I don't see the Israelis looking for compensation.

Nearly Half of the population of Jordan identify themselves as Palestinianian but you don't see Jordan opening their doors to the throngs of their suffering bretheren.

The Jews have suffered at the hands of Arab's for Centuries. They have been pushed from their homes and countries. In 1948 The world community saw fit to guarentee the future of the Jewish people within their ancestoral homeland on a sliver of land the size of New Jersey. The following day all of their Arab neighbours (some 900 million accupying 99% of the territory) declared war on Isreal and have not relented in the 60 years since.

Israel was a barren piece of desert without any oil or mineral resources but the Israeli's have managed to build a first world society with a thriving economy. In 60 years the palestinians have managed to steep in their own filth and have failed as an independant society.

If tomorrow the arabs laid down their wepons there would be peace. Israel laid down their wepons, there would be no Israel.

 

Pretty good first post, keep up the good work.

PS Look out, you better duck!

 

No piece of real estate I've ever seen is worth a human life. Not one. And I live in a very beautiful part of the world. But I'm not willing to die for it.

I've never seen a religion or a political system I'd die for either.

If freeing people from this kind of mental bondage is a crime, then I stand guilty, and proud of it.

I'm not supporting one idea over another. I only seek equalization. Something that has been prevented by powerful forces for many years.



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I changed my mind... ty Jaycola for putting this into perspective.

 

Wow.

(i did sort of wonder why the Jews living in Arab territories didn't just sort of trade houses with any Arabs that wanted out, but figured that would have been too simple, and semi-fair...)

Great post, and welcome to Hip Forums! :cheers2:

 

It's funny how both Abbas and several Palestinian journalists have blamed the Hamas for the violence and not Israel.

 

Guess they, too, agree with Xexon,

in that no piece of land is worth their lives,

and that the constant fighting must end.

 

How many Israelis did Hamas kill?

How many Palestinians did Israel kill?

 

Who ever said war should be fair?

 

People should first acclimate themselves with the word "Holocaust" and what exactly it means.

Secondly, I believe there have been many "holocausts" throughout the world's bloody history. The Jews are not the only people to have suffered.

Third, of course the Holocaust happened, and it was a horrible thing. That isn't to say the Holocaust hasn't been (and still is) exploited for a political agenda (which it has and is). Try reading the book The Holocaust Industry by Norman Finkelstein (himself a Jew).

No people on the earth could get away with what the Israelis are allowed to get away with, and any such criticism of their Nazi tactics is to be met with cries of "anti-Semite" (which is another term that is constantly misused and misapplied).

The term anti-Semite could just as rightfully, and more accurately, be applied to certain Jews' attitudes of the Muslim-Arab peoples. First you have to understand what the term "semite" actually means.

 

Utter bullshit. I don't even know where to begin, other than with the fact that you are completely ignorant of real history. Your final paragraph really displays your lack of understanding. Israel has been all about death and destruction since its formation by the Rothschild banking family in 1948. Tell me, was Israel colonized through peaceful means, or through the terror campaign of endless slaughter and death? Who funded this colonization and the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people that followed?

Israel was never intended by the zionists to be a home for the Jewish people -- 90% of which have no ancestral claim to the land -- who are used as targets and cannon fodder by the zionist elite.

If Israel had no enemies it would have to create them, which I have no doubt it does through its clandestine terrorist organization known as the Mossad, whose motto is By way of deception, thou shalt do war.

Lastly, what and who brings you to these forums?

 

You either don't recognize or understand the concept of sarcasm.

Matt, my comment about the holocaust was also sarcasm. I know you understand the concept but just didn't recognize it.

 

Also, folks, Jaycola is a shill whose post is cut-and-paste propaganda being disseminated across the internet by.... paid propagandists???

You always should be suspicious when someone joins a politically-charged discussion on an internet forum with one post to their name, dealing with what some find to be a very "sensitive" issue. Especially when you can clearly tell from the format of the post itself that it was cut-and-pasted from elsewhere.

Correction:

It appears that about half of his post was cut-and-pasted with no credit given to the source.

 

What did he put into perspective? Pretty scary that someone's mind can be changed so easily with such blatant propaganda.

 

i suspected that Jay was a cover,

but the short, sweet and simple post sounded more like a member who had put it all together in a nice, tidy package, imho.

btw, i copied and searched several pieces of his post, and other than a quote from wiki (which we all use), it appears to be original.

 

"Put it all together" by showing one side to the story, when there are in fact two sides to each side of every story.