I've opened a can of worms

Immorality and corruption are in the eye of the beholder. And if your ancestors went to the trouble to secure your life for you, why the fuck not? As far as corrupt regimes and people being oppressed, well then they can do something about it, not my problem. The workers are not exploited, they do not have to take the jobs.. And why the fuck would anyone start a business if not to reap the profits? Do you not understand the workers are the workers.. They do the work. Someone needs to have the capital to egt things started, not to mention to know what the fuck they are doing, if the workers are so ever imortant, then why don't they do these things for themselves? What is it with you and poor people? People (rich, poor whatever) don't inherently deserve anything simply for existing, it's up to them to do it for themselves. Fuck, how do you plan to just give these people a decent standard of living? And what is your definition of decent? The per capita GDP of the world is only something like $8,000/year, and then subtract the prohibitive costs necessary to run the enormous governemnt and such that would be necessary for your enforced equality, and what would be left? Sure as fuck not a decent standard of living, not to mention I'm pretty sure the entire worldwide economy would be fucked and the gdp would likely decline by quite a ways.. All that would be left to equally share would be extreme poverty and destitution.

 

No,. sorry, that's what you want it to appear my argument implies, as that is what your argument depends on me implying.

 

Not trying to justify anything, but say they were left in Africa.. What would they be being born into then?

 

In a marxist society, money would not exist as it does today. and if people should jsut 'do something about it' then surely you would back the revelution, as thats the workers taking it into there own hands.

 

"In a Marxist society" Well yay for a Marxist society. Too bad for all of your sort, we don't live in a Marxist society. And besides, even in such a society, survival of the fittest still applies.. Do you really believe corruption would not still be as rampant, or likely even more so in such a society? Why should I back your pathetic "revolution" which is founded on ignorant notions? I want nothing to do with such. If any revolution like that actually prevailed (haha like that will ever happen) I'd take part for sure in the counterrevolution.

 

Oh well, I forgive your naivety, you're only 15 and of course rather easily impressionable at such an age.

 

the point im making is that you say that the workers should've taken the initiative. well revolution is surely doint that! Anyway, in a council communst society, corruption is minimized.

 

Maybe your the impressionat one? Who;se the one thinking outisde the box here? You're just widily standing by and defending the status quote. Why don't you formulate your own views rather than just what the media tells you?

You know that when capitalis was in its infancy the feudalists at the time said it would never work.

What's this marvolous system done for the mass bulck of people today anyway?

The workers are expoloited, most cant afford to set up there own buissness and according to the value of labour theory, buissness doesnt put any input into commodity yet reaps a porfit. Capitalism is economic facism.

 

i just earnt you nineteen bucks and i have no idea why

 

brilliant

i pimp slapped yo

 

do it again.

 

aha, only once every 24 hours.

 

That you say it, or rather someone else said it and you merely repeat it, does not make it true. There is one major thing you haven't taken into account.. Human nature. I mean think about it, how did people likely start out? From anarchy or such likely arose some form of collectivization, perhaps a symblance of council communism.. But what have we now? We have evolved to this point.. And you don't seem to get the point, revolution making be taking the iniative, for you, but not for all, of course there is the competition of others' ideas and what have you. There is no like single thing that works for everyone, there will always be those at odds, not everyone can win.

 

Refer to my previous posts. People like you.. You're just trying to get something for nothing, you want to be taken care of.. Why not take responsibility for yourself, the governement should not responsible for your well being, the government should be responsible for as little as possible.. Don't you see? The kind of shit you are advocating would require such immense control you would be little more than impovershed slaves, property of your own government. Personally, I'd much rather be completely on my own, with only that which I've gotten for myself, than to be supported and in shackles.

 

but surely capitalsim is taking the initiative for you, and not all. I do not propose anarchy. I propose marxism. And that would be a step of evolution for society, from feudalsim to capitalsim to communism. Its getting fairer with each step. I a society were everyone is equal, everyone wins.

 

i love being pimp slapped but how come u get money?

 

i dont actually get money

 

Did you bother to even read that which I had written?

 

even if it involved having no healthcare, no educaton, not being looked after when you get old and having no house?

 

Isn't Columbus day coming up soon? What are you going to be doing? Celebrating the rape and murder of Native Americans? Me too!!!

I can't remember the last time I saw a person of colour on NBC. Perhaps we should rename it, just for you.

Where I'm from, white people do that kind of stuff! WOW!! Where you live white people don't break any laws and it's only the "people of colour" who commit violent crimes?
Perhaps you should see who's racist. Perhaps by checking your own beliefs and stereotypes.

So many things wrong with this one. I would like to know exactly who is trying to rewrite history. And when you say "Our" who are you talking about? Black people? The native amerians? Because, I do believe that they are a HUGE part of North America's history, and should be included, even if that means adding a chapter to a history book, or correcting some misinformation that is being fed to our kids at school.

There are Native Reservations in the UNITED STATES, the land of opportunity that do not have electricity or clean running water!! Is that safe? Native American girls have an 80% chance of being sexual abused by the time they are 18!! SAFE? NO! No one wants that! Not rich people in their gated communities, or people living in ghettos!
I guess the best answer to keep white people safe is to shove the people of colour onto plots of land to keep them away and not let them have any opportunities to better themselves, so they are always stuck on their reservations, and in their housing projects. IT"S WORKED SO WELL THIS FAR!!

BRILLIANT!!