Jesus Christ lived in India

My own ancestors were the vistims of british imperialism, as I've explained previously. They were driven from Ireland by the phoney 'potato famine' set up by the brits in an attempt at genocide.

The other side of my family come from France - the nation that gave the world the idea of political freedom from the repressive systems of class, monarchy etc, which in modified form still persist in many places, such as India and the UK.

I have said that I care nothing for any nation or culture that exists on this planet - none of them has led to anything but the total disaster we now face.

So really, I don't give a fiddlers fuck what you post about imperialism - It's clear enough that you will continue to be a negative presence here - so be it.

 

So, you are Irish-french, gaelic, I suppose.

This is news for me.

Yes, France is indeed great. I don't know why, but I feel the Divine Mothers presence is very strong in France for some reason.

I care for every nation and culture on earth, and I believe there is good in everything, which we should find by exercising our discrimination and assimilating it into our own personality.

Then join me then, and make sure that enough awareness is created that such stuff is not repeated again.

Fine, I too think I am the avatar of the devil himself. :X

I think since we believe in freedom of thought , we should also consider the devils point of view as well.

 

Not Christian or Jew or Muslim,
not Hindu, Buddhist, Sufi, or Zen.
Not any religion or cultural system...

My place is the placeless,
a trace of the traceless.
Neither body nor soul.

I belong to the beloved.

-Jalal al-din Muhammed Rumi

 

del dup

 

To get back to the topic of the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXCZFRsyl8

A video about the legend of Jesus living in India. Part 2 and 3 are in the right scroll bar.

 

Sweet Mother was born in France. As avatars go, at least we know for sure that She did then go on to live in India.

 

Indeed the more I investigate, the more convinced I become that iconoclastic mystics like Blake and Jiddu Krishnamurti(9) were right in asserting that the very idea of a spiritual path is necessarily self-defeating, because it does the one thing that has to be undone if there is to be awakening to eternity: it concentrates attention firmly on futurity. Paths and disciplines make gnosis a goal, when in fact it is already the ground of all knowing, including sinful time-bound knowing. To me now, systems of spirituality seem like analogues of those dreams which prevent waking up (for example, to wet a thirsty throat or relieve the bladder) by creating a never-ending nocturnal drama of moving towards the desired goal, encountering and overcoming obstacle after obstacle along the way, but never actually arriving

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I belive in a spirit, I just do not accept there is anything to develop.

I am here to express this belief.

 

Blake was a true master - However, his iconaclasm only went so far. He retained the bible and Jesus in his overall system. But his work is complex, and has many layers. He is also thought of by many as a proto-socialist.


The idea of developing the spirit is wrong headed in my view also.
What we can dvelop is the mind and also the feelings.

 

Dear Niranjan,

On the genetic level, yes, with a little welsh mixed in too. However, I was born into and conditioned by British culture.
However, at a young age, I became entirely disillusioned with it all, and I sought refuge in the hippy counter culture of the time.
Despite my attemts to try, I never really got back into the mainstream. I suppose I exist at the margins of what they laughably call 'society'.

No doubt there are many good things about the more refined aspects of British culture, but the masses are I'm sorry to say mainly yobbish idiots with very little to recommend them.
Perhaps it's worth noting that in WW 1, the majority of strong young men of breeding age were wiped out before they had chance pass on their genes. Thus it was only a few of the best people who went on to reproduce, along with the presumably inferior types who were unfit to be sent off to be butchered for their empire.
So IMO the gene pool has been downgraded.

In the UK today, so far as I can see, there is no trace of anything that looks like social cohesion. It is a society in decline, post imperial decline.
Where 50 years ago there was an attempt to create a more just and equitable socialist state, we now have a culture of greed, violence and stupidity, with an ever burgeoning number of idiotic rules and regulations, which have all but removed the so-called 'liberty' boasted of by english patriotic types.

So, I live here, but I don't identify with the culture very much.
There were great things in the past, in literature - Shakespeare, Milton, Blake, Shelly etc - in art Turner. Also the industrial revolution figures such as Brunnel, Deby etc, who undoubtedly changed the world forever, and for the better, in the long run, IMO.
These however are massively outweighed by the number of cruel and tyrannical rulers, mediochre philosophers, slave economists etc the country has produced over the ages.

I don't think though that I would get anywhere at all by seeking to identify with another culture - Indian, Tibetan or whatever. Certainly I think western people can learn a certain amount from easter thinkers etc, but westerers can't become easterners.
Those who try, such as Iskon people simply become marginalized and look ridiculous.

Hence I suppose, I am really a new-ager. I think a new global culture is the answer.
It would have to be based on the French revolutionary values of liberty, equality and fraternity, but would have to embody a new awareness - a new consciousness, which is probably what the old religions were pointing towards. A new age, a new dawn. Hope for the future. Paradise on earth perhaps?....who knows.


Anyway, I hope that helps clear up my position a bit.

 

I would have to concur.

I am not so sure about that WW1 gene pool theory however. There have been plenty of outstanding British individuals since WW1. The number does not seem any lower than before WW1.

I watched documentaries that state we always had a large % of yobbish idiots in our ranks.

At times it is a deeply depressing place to live. Especially for those interested in any kind of spirituality.

It often feels a very harsh place. Genuine kindness seems sparce. Looking down upon, laughing behind others backs seems the order of the day.

I still think most British individuals rate themselves very highly. They may act humble, polite, and self effacing at times. But believe themselves deep down to be superior than everyone else.

I know this, because I was the same, thought the same, maybe I still am the same. I hope not.

I think every other Western European nation is light years ahead of us. In terms of quality of life, and happiness.

 

Yes it's a dreary place isn't it? I agree too that many brits are extremely up themselves, as the saying goes.

It seems that all sense of community is breaking down, or in fact has already broken down. I think that's why there's the lack of simple kindness etc in people, or at least it's one reason.
Thatcher's saying that 'there is no such thing as society' seems to have been widely taken to heart and embraced, and what we have is a philosophy of grab all you can and screw the rest.

The pressure of life is also getting much more intense than it was even 25 years ago. Everyone is under all these various pressures which seem to be increasing all the time.

If you try to do something positive you find enourmous forces arrayed against you - or that's becoming my experience these days.

Still - you can try to create positive energy for yourself in the confines of your own little world! That's what I try to do. Just because the surrounding reality is negative and filled with negative people doesn't mean there can't be little islands of sanity in the sea of madness.

 

That's how I live.

Your also correct about society breaking down.

I only hope this isn't the way the whole world is going.

I am positive the way the UK is heading is doomed.

There are a few positive signs, like environmental concerns etc. Maybe all is not lost.

 

There is always hope. And it's not all black - personally I think the potential exists now to create a global utopia for the first time in human history. We have the knowledge and the technology, all that is lacking is the concerted will on a wide level.
And things could be much worse than they are in the UK - we still have some freedoms left, and there are some very good people around.

Probably, you're far better off here than if you were a low caste Indian or an untouchable. Few people over here live in subsistence poverty, everyone can still get healthcare, food money etc.

Probably the state of the world has always looked a bit catastrophic to people who are sensitive or who think or who are spiritually inclined.