Jesus was groovy but whats a Christian?

sorry if i offended you by having a sense of humor. i will be more careful in the future not to laugh.

 

Good point! Lots of animals are tortured everyday. All sentient beings are equal in my mind. If there was a sarcastic cartoon of animals tortured, I would probably laugh if it was funny.

Peace and love

 

Your "sense of humor" is nothing more than a twisted thought. Someone getting tortured to death is not funny at all. For people that say love and peace and things like that I would think you two wouldn't regard torture as something to laugh about (especially hippie Chick sense i don't know exactly if you think peace an love are good NaturalPhilosophy).

 

you're telling me your meat animals weren't tortured? bull shit. why do you care so much about a dead person who MAY or MAY NOT have been real? yet you pay other people to torture and kill your meat animals for you? get off your high horse.

Remove the log from your own eye before you point out the splinter in mine- a wise dude once said that, guess who it was.


i don't kill or eat animals but one time i was watching this cartoon and a this cartoon chicken got hit by a train. i laughed my ass off!!!! does that mean i'm ACTUALLY laughing at the act of killing chickens by putting them on the train tracks? nope. what it means is that i am laughing at the joke. snickers. it's funny shit. don't you get the joke? it's just a joke. get over it.

 

That's mighty rediculous. IF you think "all sentient beings are equal" and that they shouldn't be tortured, then why would you laugh at the idea?

 

I am sorry that you are bound to your views like a ship is to it's anchor. May you be freed from suffering and expeirence perfect happiness forever! Om mani padme hum!

Peace and love

 

I laugh at the joke, not the torture.

Peace and love

 

First: Nope, the animals I eat have not been tortured. There is something called the "animal rights act" which has guidlines so the animals are not tortured. The death has to be quick and they have to have certain living condiditons. In the case of chickens (which are not included in the act), I eat Perdue chicken mostly. My brother-in-law works for the company and he has seen the living conditions and knows they are killed quickly and not tortured. Though some companies pluck the chickens while they are still alive, hang them upside down in a converyer belt, and then boil them alive. I don't agree with that though.

 

The joke IS the torture. Say you take the torture out of the joke...then it is no longer the same joke and no longer funny. Hence you ARE laughing at the torture.

 

I'm sorry that you see it that way.

Peace and love

 

I'm sorry you don't.

 

Why are you so adament over this point? It has no significance whatsover to this discussion? Om mani padme hum!

Peace and love

 

Look Bud Toker, I too get hurt when I see the tortured statue and pictures of Jesus , but that does not mean that we should be hurt all the time.

It was just a joke by FedUp, and though I found it a bit odd myself, I too appreciated it.

We need to laugh at ourselves, or we will go insane in this insane world.

 

i see this is your attempt to justify your actions.aaaannd it is completely silly. no matter how you word it, you are attacking me for laughing at a joke depicting suffering when you are the one actually paying people to cause suffering (on innocent and defenseless animals) for your pleasure( taste buds).

so i'll ask again, why do you care so much about the pain of a guy that may or may not have been real 2,000 years ago, but you don't care how much pain you are causing in the here and now.


(also, don't take this as a pro-vegetarian argument. i'm not trying to change your mind or turn you vegan, because i typically never argue veg*nism unless i am invited to do so. im simply using the argument to back up my points. so yea, dont take this as a 'youareanevilmeateater' argument.)

 

i want to hear your response, budtoker, but i am about to go pick up a fat sack so don't take anything i said as disrespect. thanks for standing up for what you believe and arguing your points. ill be back on this thread so peace.

 

The animals are NOT being tortured adn I don't see how they are suffering. In fact if it was me in the animal's sistuation I would MUCH rather be shot/clubbed in the head and dead within seconds than have my windpipe crushed and suffocate to death (which happens in the wild) or have a toxin injected into me and have my organs fail and cells explode (also happens in the wild) or babies implanted into my body while Im paralyzed and them eating my innards until I die (also happens in the wild). Eating meat is natural. The animals in captivity (at least the animals cared for by the companies I buy from) have a safe environment, shelter, and food until the day they die. If they don't have such living conditions I will not buy from the company.

There is no "may or may not have been real". There is scientific historical evidence that Jesus of Nazereth DID live and WAS a real person (not that he was the son of God though, which I don't believe anyway).

I never in any way said I "don't care how much pain you are causing in the here and now". First off, I don't cause the pain. Secondly, the animals I eat don't die a torturous and painful (realatively speaking) death.

 

I can fully laugh at myself, just not at a tortured soul. especially when that soul was so good, peaceful, loving, caring, and kind.

 

wow

 

Im not saying you should have it both ways DUDE. Im not saying pastors should reference the OT (unless just considering some things said in it). The 10 Commandments are one of the few things the Bible (and Jesus) says to continue to follow in the OT.

 

But by taking the Bible for what it is you would still phase out most of the OT. Don't you get it? If it says to phase it out in the Bible and you take the Bible literally, then it IS phased out. That's what a true Christian should do because that's what Christ and the Bible says to do. Also, there could be a new division of Christianity could there not? One that follows the teachings of Christ but only takes the Bible as a guide? Why would they not be Christian?