Jesus was groovy but whats a Christian?

K, remind me tomorrow as I am about to go to bed and too tired from the Oxycodone to bother finding it. lol

It doesn't go against the grain of what the Bible says because the Bible says to phase out the Old Testament.

 

Dude no bible quotes (its the rule, even though I don't agree with it). Anyway, he was talking about the 10 commandments in Matthew 5:17-19, home dog. And not only that buuuuut he specifically got rid of some of the rules (like don't eat pork) so IF you think he was talking about the whole OT in the quote then you have Jesus conflicting with himself. The Jews never "turned away from God" as their religion is solely based on God, so the "the human race as a whole" couldn't ahev done so, yo. Also, the Bible says that some Jews will go to heaven, why would a people that have "turned away from God" go to heaven?

 

No that's not a good Christian. In fact I would say that's the worst type of Christian. And at least the last people you talk about are being honest.

 

Lol I'd love to use them too. But awell.

Well I think the first step to change is honesty. So if they are honest up front, maybe they have a better chance of seeing the truth.

 

This above all: to thine own self be true.


--Shakespeare



“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived, and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive and realistic.”
— John F. Kennedy, 20th-century American president (from the Yale Commencement address, 1962)



"All advertising, whether it lies in the field of business or of politics, will carry success by continuity and regular uniformity of application."

— Adolf Hitler, dictator of Germany's Third Reich (1889-1945)




Mary Kay Ash:Honesty is the cornerstone of all success, without which confidence and ability to perform shall cease to exist.





Honesty is the first chapter of the book of wisdom
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--Thomas Jefferson:

 

Exactly!

 

Shut up with you fucking bible, no one has claimed that in their own definition yet, especially BudToker whom you are arguing with the most this thread.

Jesus didn't write the bible, so yes you can still follow what he taught and not the entire bible.

 

Yes but you have atleast 10 threads in this forum to do so, so either stick to the topic or fuck off...

 

Thanks. but no need to get mad or curse.

History books tell some of what Jesus was said to have taught (not jsut in the Bible but in other works at the time). The only way we know most things about the past are through documents. Who knows, the Bible could have a lot of historical accuracy in it. The only REAL way to know the truth about the past would be to experience it, but since that is not currently possible we must go with historical texts.

 

A Christian or a True Christian?

Anyway, i'm not saying you should limit yourself to a certain amount of threads, no, not at all. What i am saying is if you're going to post in this one you should atleast stick to the topic instead of your usual bible bashing (yes i'm using it with a new meaning).

Personally, i don't give a damn about "Christianity" but i did want to discuss this topic with out it getting rail roaded with your usual shit. I wanted to see what all these people who were defending the religion were actually defending... you don't seem to give a damn, so I don't know why you are bothering with this thread...

 

Christians believe that Jesus is the savior, and that through him you will find forgiveness and redemption.

Then there are all kinds of different denominations that believe other stuff too, but basically, that's it.

 

Only as much as you are an ignorant fool who is in love with himself. (sorry im feelin a little hostile tonight lol)

 

Yes, Jesus is groovy and he was a f...ing radical in his time. Yes, he was a prophet and spouted truths that the Jews of his day weren't happy to hear for the most part. He was and is a master...a teacher of truth. But you have to separate the man and his teachings from the rest of the bible and christianity. Yeshua was his name not Jesus. Jesus is the Greek aka Roman form of his name. The modern equivalent is Joshua. Josh was and is a cool dude. His followers after his death ended up corrupting his teachings with those of the Jews (Paulism) and then Rome got involved and Mithraism got intermingled with it amongst other cults. Some of them good ones and some of them bad. So there are not any "TRUE" Christians. They got killed shortly after Joshua did. All the narcs took over. So, they changed things. So, the modern religion that calls itself "Christianity" does not hold much if any resemblance to the original church of the master Yeshua of Nazareth. And his "church" building was a rocky mountainside. So, there may be a few who profess to follow him and his teachings but they are ignorant of his original teachings so how can they follow him. His steps were made in sand and the wind has washed away all but a few of his footprints. So, how in the name of common sense can anyone follow behind. It is not possible. One can only plod on in the general direction and hope to catch up and make it to the proper destination.

Peace, Cricket

 

I agree completely. I was begining to think I'm the only guy in the world who thinks he's a Christian in this sense but doesn't believe a lot of the doctrinal crap in the Nicean creed which was the end product of church politics. To me, a lot of the televangelists are true pharisees--the people Jesus had trouble with. The Muslim contibtor is right that the orthodox version of Christianity is mainly from Paul, who stressed faith in certain beliefs as the key to salvation and was less concerned with Jesus as a role model than as a sacrifical God/man/lamb. When I call myself Christian, all I mean is what BudToker says it is. And it doesn't matter to me whether Jesus existed or was a myth like FedUp American thinks he was. Thanks for the post.

 

Yeah, that's the word.

 

No problem man. Glad to see another like-mind.

 

You actually see jesus as role-model?
So THAT's one the problems I think these days.

 

Oh yeah. Try to be non-judgmental, love everybody, help the poor--big problem.