jesus

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by raz5, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. satchOnugs

    satchOnugs Banned

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    exactly if you dont follow his love (not him) then you will be in a place opposite of love when you die. You create your own afterlife on this earth for yourselves. If you live a hellish life on earth, then you will take that with you to the afterlife, but if you live a life of peace and love then your afterlife will be filled with peace and love. im not your normal christian, i believe God sent Jesus here as one of many of the prophets around the world to show love to the people and NOT to be worshipped. Jesus even says in the bible that you can call me all the names you please, but when you curse the father you can't be forgiven so lightly, so ya i dont believe Jesus is *not fully god just a prophet of God.
     
  2. TipsyGypsy

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    If God decides where we go when we die - we don't really make our own choices. I don't want to chose to follow a god that allows all this suffering to happen and then blames us, saying it's happening because of our bad choices. That's ridiculous, and nothing you say will change that or make it right.
     
  3. ChronicTom

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    Theres that 'love' again...

    It is not love to say, follow what I say, or die...
     
  4. satchOnugs

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    half of the bible is fucked with guys! dont you understand over the thousands of years the filthy church has corrupted and tweaked the word for the betterment of the church.

    talk to people who have actually died themselves. they know that religion doesnt mean 2 shits to God because they all lead to the same thing.. WE chose to come to this earth and WE chose when and how we would die, If you live your life to help others and love others unconditionally that is all you need to do nothing else. So many people mis interpret the bible. for example the 'beast' or the 'devil' that is spoken of in the bible is symbolic for our animilistic beast like instincts that we are trying to get rid of so our people can recieve christ conciousness, not some evil master spirit.
     
  5. NotDeadYet

    NotDeadYet Not even close.

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    Amen.
     
  6. ChronicTom

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    Of course, just the half that you disagree with, right? :rolleyes:
     
  7. satchOnugs

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    yes the half that my spiritual gut feeling understands to be false, so yes you are right man :)

    all i have to say is love and spread that shit everywhere! we will all pass on one day and all of us will be standing in the light, the light will not judge us but we will judge ourselves. just as we judge ourselves on earth. the real God is the God of love, light, and forgiveness. The real God would never condemn a soul to eternal hell. we are all on a spiritual journey seperated from God and it is our mission to return and be one with the divine whether it takes one lifetime or thousands of lifetimes.
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    Perhaps they just think the half you pay attention to in the bible is the fucked part and the part they agree with is the 'right part'....

    Saying anything along the lines of, the parts of the bible I agree with are right, and the rest wrong, is fucked, no matter how you measure it.

    Either it is the word of your god, or it is not. Do you really think any being with the power that your god is supposed to have would allow a mere human to fuck with HIS WORD?

    If you agree that parts of the bible are not his word, then how can you claim ANY of it is? Do you have a special primer sent down by god that says, pay attention to these verses, but the rest are crap?
     
  9. satchOnugs

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    Yes! thats the thing he gives us free will to do whatever we want whether it be 'to fuck with his word' or to follow his word, if you dont believe that the bible has been screwed with through thousands of years of translations and the church re wording it to their own liking, then i dont know what else to say. some people know God and are close with God while others just arent and to me its very sad. and im sure you think my situation is sad because you think i worship an invisible being but thats fine. and to the last part of your post, i throw out any of the angry vengeful God bs that was changed to lead the people with fear! you would agree with me on that wont you? and i only follow the messages of love and oneness with God. why are you getting so defensive dude you dont even believe in the bible or God?
     
  10. ChronicTom

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    Actually, I am of the firm beleif that the whole fucking bible is a crock of shit.

    Just because it does have some things in it that make sense (ie don't kill), doesn't mean the book has any validity...

    The fact that you can sit there and say its been fucked with for thousands of years, but the parts you agree with haven't been, is, for want of a better word...

    FUCKED

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    If you want to talk to people who only beleive in the bible and god, then go post in the sanctuary, that is why its there.

    As for why it would bother me? Because I hate hypocracy and there is no bigger example of it then the bible and other religions 'texts'...
     
  11. NotDeadYet

    NotDeadYet Not even close.

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  12. satchOnugs

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    whatever you say buddy, you either believe or you don't that decision is up to you. All i have to say is that one day when god does touch you and try and communicate with you dont shut him down immediately let him in and you will truely understand what contentment is =). religion is a crock of shit but God most definately is not.
     
  13. ChronicTom

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    When your god reaches out and tries to touch me, I will tell him to go find another little boy to 'touch'.
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    You mean that thread you started in the christianity thread?

    Same reason I wouldn't walk into a church and start ranting about it.

    I don't surround myself by people I don't like and then start ranting against them.
     
  15. satchOnugs

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    right on dude thats whats so great about free will no one can tell you what to think. enjoy your existence bashing the God on the internet that gave your arrogant ass life. just like it says below your name you truely are lost.. but you can be found. try love. thats all im saying peace.
     
  16. NotDeadYet

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    That would be equivalent to starting that thread in the Sanctuary Forum.
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    No, in the sanctuary, it would be more like walking into the vatican and ranting about it.

    At least to my view.
     
  18. NotDeadYet

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    That might be fun. :D

    Better than offending ordinary people in an ordinary church.
     
  19. ChronicTom

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    lol, yeah, fun right up until they drag you down into the catacombs and kill you...
     
  20. RockiesFan

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    I don't get it. :confused: I'll defend anybody's right to have an opinion whether I agree with it or not. "Fuck him" doesn't give me anything to work with. Why do you feel this way? That might make an interesting topic.
     
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