thanks evryone..fylthefoid,thanks brother ya the guy that started it on top of my shoulder disaperd didnt even pay him for that 1/2 hour sesson.then i found a guy to finnish it we allso traded skills i did his web site and he did my arm and 2 small ones on my wife.pretty decent trade.here is his link http://area51tattoos.com/ good luck with your arm its looking great so far,i really like the meaning of totoms....................sunshine frog
