Just Think . . .

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Varuna, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    I don't think its fair to say something we cant quantify is increasing, rather than changing.
    Especially to someone grappling with a question regarding an infinite regress.
     
  2. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    The grappler! Rest assured, if infinite regress was anything more than a question, I wouldn't say it.
     
  3. Who__Dey85

    Who__Dey85 Guest

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    I think what hes saying is that before you commit to believing something, you need to consider that your thoughts might be wrong. In which case, you may be living your entire life the wrong way.

    Example:
    You choose to be religious. However, you did not consider the atheist's perspective. Because of that, you just continue to be religious. And lets say religion is wrong. So you spend your whole life following religious guidelines. All because you never considered the other side.
     
  4. AK Bones

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    All of our perceptions and interpretations are distorted thru the lens of language and culture. It is a lifetime endeavor to try to gain a proper perspective and figure out to the best of our abilities what these distortions are and pass these understandings and this life's work on to our children.
     
  5. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    Inversely, you choose to be an Atheist. From that point on, you do not consider the actual information, or even consider that it may not conform, in any way, to whatever you assumed it must be.

    And let's say religion is neither right nor wrong, it is simply a question of consciousness, your sense of the sacred, your assumptions about the unknown, your ideals, maybe even your capacity for abstract thought beyond the demands of your immediate desires and fears.

    Anyway, so you spend your whole life following some poorly informed assumptions, refusing to even consider a whole dimension of reality, all because you believed something that wasn't necessarily true.

    But hey, you may be right. I'm open to a convincing argument.
     
  6. willedwill

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    I don't know about you people but the Russians used to believe that people could think broader 'misplaced concretes' about God than scientists who would just be stopping to worry about their falsehoods. That idea has me grabbed a little. I believe that the abstraction was called parapsychology. .... Deoua..h
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    God is a particular way to say good. Everyone has a level of devotion or conviction. We are hard wired to find our good. Where our good treasure lies
    There is our heart also. From this perspective, god is a fact of human being.
     
  8. willedwill

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    Now I got ya'. You changed your view, 'thedope'. God is a fact? God was good to the facts of prophesy and calling in us. For humans God I believe is a truth about alluded word from the prophets, and that may be something somewhat of an undetermined falseness for the alchemical golden being of determinism. I thought this was more your view.:bobby:
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I wasn't trying to get away. I know god beyond symbols, but the effort to produce them is endemic, as in characteristic, of human being.

    Just for the fact of acquiring food, if nothing else, we come into the world seeking. Ultimately what is seek is evidence of self, who or what am I.
     
  10. willedwill

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    The God emerging is not what has emerged as a god. If it were (just to be consistent with the sub-forum and thread), then God's incidental existence for the world (supposedly He created It) would also be the rather more ordinary existence of humanities in the midst of the abstractly understood evolved World: i.e. co-incidence.
     

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