Did anybody notice a tear in his eyes as he said ''The End'' ?. I have a feeling that lithium has hit the nail on the head - there will be no noticeable changes of policy. BUT - I think it will be articulated [spin if you like] in a differing manner and possibly the media will be less cynical and report it all in a different manner [again more spin if you like] - this will possibly appear to make the policys seem a lot more benign that when Blair was pushing through the same policys. This will deffinitly not be the end of ''Spin''. It is just not possible to end that. If anybody knows if it is please explain it to me - cheers.
i agree with L.A.Matthews. Tony Blair was a very good leader in my eyes. his only main downfall was the Iraq war and getting so intimately involved with Bush. and Skip, DONT base your hate for Blair on his foreign policy alone. there's so much more to him then that. he had many successes in Britain, putting right a lot of the things the Conservative govenment ruined.
oooo. the hypocrisy is THICK!! don't like people peering too closely at your troublesome leaders and the affect the assholes will have on the rest of the world? wow.
Fair point, but I honestly can't see how you can call Blair a fascist. I believe he's changed this country in a positive way immensely since the Torie's.
meh. i wouldn't take someone calling blair a fascist seriously, that's just one of those words people like to throw around, like comparisons to hitler. it's lazy arguing. but then, so is "quit looking at me and look at yourself" when that wasn't what the discussion was, anyway. i have to say, i felt a little ZING when i read that, like "AHA! HAHAHAHAHA!! i was RIGHT. people are people anyway."
Well I'm sure it's difficult for Americans to comprehend just how bad the 17 year Conservative government was and how Blair really was a breath of fresh air. He did bring in some progressive, reforming policies such as the minimum wage and massive investment into the NHS - which was failing and which might well no longer exist had we had another Tory government. The real tragedy is that there never really was a radically progressive agenda since Blair sanitised anything vaguely socialist out of the Labour party between 94 and 97. So while there were positive aspects of Blairism in the early years compared to the alternative, New Labour turned out as just a continuation of Thatcherism with a few nods to progressive social justice. And I don't think you will find many people who post on these boards who would support Blair's foreign policy, particularly Iraq. An absolute unmitigated disaster in all respects.
Blair committed your country to WAR with IRAN just before he left power. You are at "FULL ON WAR with IRAN" right now, but you don't even know it. That is called fascism. Even the US hasn't made that commitment publically yet. The above quote is Rupert Murdock leaking the fact that Britain is now at war with Iran. He knows it, but few others do, or are willing to admit it.
That isn't called fascism at all! Fascism is a promotion of virulent nationalism, repression, racism, anti-communism, and restrictions on liberal individualism. Blair didn't do any of this, and nor is he a dictator (as most fascists are). Sounds like you're just being hyperbolic.
Also, did that quote about Iran come from The Sun?! Come on, for Christ's sake! I mean...come on! Are you REALLY that gullible?
WOHAY BLIAR HAS GONE. IN COMES GORDON BROWN! I'm impressed with everything that Brown has said. I can't help but trust him. "My government is the British peoples'" and I believe every word he has said. He has also stated that there is going to be a quota on the amount of immigrants in so we should see a huge difference in the amount coming in. If they're not going to work then they aren't coming in! Gordon Brown has also stated that he'd like to see union jacks outside everyones gardens. Not that it will be compulsory but with that opinion and his backing of "Britishness" being taught and "British day" I think he is going to bring back patriotism to Britain. GO ON GORDON!!!
oh, and Skip, the Sun make their business on lies and scaremongering. don't listen to them, and if you want to be taken seriously around here, don't get your quotes and sources from there either.
hahahahaha erm I think Skip gets his info from a wide range of sources - that support his conjecture - do we not all do that ?. You do realise he runs this site ?.
Yup just as gullible as ALL YOU BRITS were about the Sun's claim that... "Brits 45 mins from doom!". You know that claim that Saddam could attack Britain somehow with WMD... The very claim that the BUSH & BLAIR used to justify an invasion of a foreign country who posed absolutely no threat to us, but has lots of oil sitting in the ground... I'm SHOWING YOU that they're doing it again, because ONCE AGAIN THEY ARE GOING TO INVADE ANOTHER SOVEREIGN COUNTRY and are setting up their excuses. ARE YOU BLIND?
Once again it appear you still have a LOT to LEARN about fascism. See my Hallmarks of Fascism below: Hallmarks of a Fascist Regime By Skip Stone One leader who has nearly absolute control of government, despite pretense otherwise. There is no effective opposition to his policies. All opposition held in check through various overt and covert means (although they go thru the motions of being an opposition). Limited public debate about policies. Control over media. Media only reports what government allows it to report. Covert Censorship. Rigged Elections Constant appeals to Patriotism with lots of flag waving. Flags and/or images of the Leader appear everywhere. Those who don't follow along are singled out and ridiculed. Vocal Opponents end up dead under mysterious circumstances (Like Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Paul Wellstone, ADD DAVID KELLY for you Brits) Leader passes laws giving himself even more powers Controls the masses through Fear Mongering Scapegoating. Certain class of people blamed for the problems the leader faces, justifying new laws and military actions. Must have an ongoing war to keep people's minds off how fucked their own government is. No real policy to improve the lives of the average person. Leader surrounded only by trusted friends and business people who profit handsomely. Most actions favor insiders, friends and Corporate entities at the expense of the people. Laws that monitor and control business practices are removed. Constantly preaching morality to the masses (to cover their own immoral actions) Government involved in numerous illegal activities, all kept secret through various means. Violates, disrespects or refuses to agree to World Conventions on Human Rights, international norms of conduct, and other laws. All manner of excuses offered. Spy agencies given broad new powers and funding. Government increases covert activities against its own citizens. Citizens are urged to spy on citizens. Many civil liberties restricted or suspended. An incredible amount of blood is spilled, with no obvious benefit except to those in power. Does ANY of this sound familiar where you live? Then YOU'RE LIVING under Fascism! Some well known fascists: Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Marcos, Saddam Hussein, Noriega, Suharto, Sukarno, Pinochet, Milosovich, Bush Please note at one time or another most of these people were either trained or supported by the US government and had numerous business dealings with US corporations.