If you did order from them, I suspect you'll get some potent effects regardless of what colour veins they are. But, it was just a little note.
i drank with 2 of my friends and it was INCREDIBLE. i had massive amounts of energy and a body buzz like nothing ive had before. one of my friends got sick and went to sleep though (he compared it to taking methadone), i think it was cuz hesmoked sum pot right afterwards.
=D Great to hear, friend! See, I'm not the only one! =P Props to Thailand! One day (after I experiment with some Kratom some more), I plan to grow a Kratom tree on the campus here (or try and stunt its growth and keep it in my room), and use the leaves from that to make drinks for myself and any friends. =)
Ok, so my kratom came today, and I'm wondering about dosage and effects. Hikaru, you said to take half an ounce, which I may do, but is it gonna fuck me up, or what? When you say you were clumbsy, is it like a drunken kind of feeling, or less intense than that? Are my eyes gonna get bloodshot, or the pupils dialate? How obvious are the effects? I don't want my parents freaking out, you know?
Eyes dont' turn bloodshot or dialate. The only partially noticable side-effect is clumbsiness; and it's kind of like being VERY, VERY stoned. I've never been drunk before, though, so I can't compare it with alcohol. But I can compare it with weed, and it's like being on the upper end of the stoned category, though you apparently get used to the clumbsiness. It's less clumbsiness though, and more like "inability to balance." =P I imagine it'd be a little less intense than alcohol, but that's only my intuition speaking.
I just don't want to be stumbling all over the place like a drunk. You said you went running, so it can't be that bad, right? I think I'm gonna start out with 1/4 oz and see what happens. Read a report in the Erowid Experience Vaults of a guy that used 2.5 grams in a tea and experienced effects, so I want to start low and see how it goes. I'll report back after I've tried it (not sure when I'll get a chance though). Man, I gotta say I'm suprised you've never been drunk. Seems like everyone's at least gotten drunk at least once by your age, especially here on the hip forums, where drugs are very widely used, alcohol included. Not saying it's a bad thing that you haven't, though, in fact, it might be a good thing, since alcohol has many negatives.
Aye, Kratom is a lesser psychoactive in even small amounts, but is traditionally taken in 14g increments (half an ounce). But, it is a very good idea to start small to check it out. Just remember, add sugar or some sweetener that makes the bitter taste go away! And no, I doubt that you will stagger around as if drunk. You may lose your balance every now and again, but you don't lose most of your motor skills (you can still write and type and such things). And aye, it's very weird how I've never been drunk, but I am not a fan of the taste of beer or alcohol in general; it just tastes like urine to me. I do favour a glass of wine every now and again (new year's eve, Christmas, Thanksgiving, and what-have-you), but not to get drunk, just to get a small buzz to lighten the mood, I suppose. I'm just not a fan of alcohol, I guess.
I agree on the alcohol thing. I'll force myself to drink liquor (usually Jack Daniels) because despite the bad taste, you don't have to drink a lot to get buzzed. And, you can mix it, but I never do, I prefer it straight. But wine, now that's good shit. Never ever want to get drunk from it again (worst hangover ever, plust the vomiting that night) but I agree, it's nice for a mood enhancer. And it tastes good.
Well, about half an hour ago I drank a cup of kratom tea, and it's great. I used half an oz of leaves since it's just me. This stuff is probably the most bitter, foul tasting stuff I've ever had. Even after I added honey and some sugar it still tated awful. As I was drinking it, it made me a little queasy, but after I had it all down, I was fine. I started feeling it after about 15 minutes, but the feeling has gotten stronger since then. I feel like I'm relaxing in a warm bath, it's great. Thanks Hikaru, kratom is a fantastic thing.
No problem, Therefore. =) Voiceofliberty: I haven't tried the premium powdered leaf yet ... is it more economical or easier to prepare than the regular leaf?
i don't think spamming forums is her intent. her significant other owns that store and people were asking where to get it, so she was telling them. how that differs from you recommending iamshaman i have no idea.
i think i might have to get me some of this. Been wanting to for too long now. It the powdered stuff better? Like hikaru said, is it any more economical? Do you get more highs for the buck?
According to someone else I talked with, the "premium powdered" is more economical in cost and effect, but I haven't tried it myself yet.