Lack of patriotism makes me sick!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Gravity, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    To go back on topic though, especially in regards to American patriotism, after victory in WW2, the US spent 45 years seeing itself as defender of the western world, followed by spending the whole 90's especially after the first gulf war of the great victor in the cold war, unrivaled economic growth and dominance combined with unprecedented cultural dominance, ect. Point being though, Americans for better or worse are going to extremely arrogant for quite a while to come still.
     
  2. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    He will continue to be embarrassed. The ignorant are not generally aware that they are ignorant, however even the mountains are worn into the sea.
     
  3. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The German sees himself as the innocent victim of world envy and hatred conspired against him. Set upon by inferior peoples of inferior nations. He cannot admit to error much less to wrong doing, not the german. We chose to ignore ethiopia and spain but we learned from our casualty list the price of looking the other way.

    Men of truth everywhere have come to know for whom the bell tolls, but not the german. no he still follows his warrior gods marching to wagnerian strains, his eyes fixed upon a fiery sort of secret, and in those dark subterranean meeting places the german dream world comes alive, and he takes his place in shining armor beneath the banners of the teutonic knights.

    Mankind is waiting for the messiah, but for the german the messiah is not the prince of peace, he's another Barbarosa, another Hitler :eek:

    The Stranger (1946)


    Hotwater
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Do you consider this to be beneficial?
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    This tends to ruin it for those who enjoy the view from the peaks.

    You're a man of much more patience and faith than I am.
     
  6. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Another way to put that would be, unchecked raping and pillaging, things that a lot of people wouldn't consider a source of pride.
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    *rolls eyes*

    People aren't forced to buy our media or financial services, yet the US dominates the world in both in an unproportional way.
     
  8. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Why roll your eyes? Just because that may not be your view, you really should be able to recognize that a lot of people, including some of your fellow citizens feel this way.

    In fact, protesting that fact has went hand and hand with the whole hippy culture from the beginning.
     
  9. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Yes, America has done horrible, terrible things to other countries, especially during the cold war, but it's just fun to gang up on America, we're not the only one. For example, going back to Germany for a minute, during the Iraq-Iran war, everyone rabbles about how the US help supplied Saddam(and Iran for that matter), yes the US sold arms to Iraq, but they were mostly conventional arms, France and West Germany supplied Iraq with most of the chemical weapons used against Iran, as well as France providing nuclear technology to both Iraq and Pakistan to fuel its own agenda.
     
  10. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Of course other countries have done horrible things, including canada, our history with the first nations and inuit people is horrid.

    My point was, that the points that you (and many others) claim with pride as to what your country has done, others, including inside your own country, feel are not matters of pride but of shame.
     
  11. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Yes but if every country only focuses on their bad aspects then the world would be a miserable place, it's like the nightly news, it's almost always bad news, it's only bad news about countries that ever make the news too. I mean how often do read a news story entitled "first world countries continue to live awesome and free lives"
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    Yes, absolutely, focusing on just the negative and saying you were the worst country in the world, would be wrong... Just as wrong, as it is to focus only on the good and claim to be the best country....
     
  13. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i don't see it as any worse than loving your town and really believing it's the best damn place in the world to live. or all that high school rah rah stuff i never understood.
     

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