It's isn't nice to talk down to someone. It depends. Are they telling me that my table at a restaurant is ready, or that my pimp wants his money? Ma'am or Miss works the same as Sir. It's really not that difficult.
I have never been with a guy who says them but men are not the only ones guilty of pet name. Women use them too. Also nurses lol. After a 4 week stay in a hospital i got really sick of nurses talking like I was a child and using honey, sweety, hun, dear etc when they spoke.
It's a bit diff in different places/cultures. It's not at all unusual for a gal to address a guy as hun or sweetie in casual conversation in the deep south as in 'sweetie your table's ready'. It riles me a bit to be called 'Sir'. I'm not a damn English Lord! We fought three wars for the right to call no one 'Sir'. I was read the riot act for that as a youngster more than once.
I hated it but men don't seem to say it to me so much anymore. It's like my age has earned me some respect. Women on the other hand have begun to call me these names and I like it. I find myself saying it to other women, too. It's like an acknowledgement of sisterhood.
I think this is most often the case. To a gentlemen, these pet names are terms of endearment. Assholes will use them sarcastically but if I call you love, sweetheart, or any of these names it's me showing respect, not "talking down to someone." If I say, "hey lady," or "excuse me miss" that means I don't know enough about you to like you or not. If I say "hey Hun" or "excuse me love" that means I do like you. If a woman corrects me, then I won't use it again. But it shouldn't be thought of as disrespect right off the bat. My father and grandfather taught me to be a gentlemen, and these little phrases and "pet names" to many men are a way to show a woman that you like and respect them. I don't know how that was lost in today's culture. Would most women here agree that the term "love" or "luv" is more acceptable than the others mentioned? If it helps.....imagine it in a British accent
This is also a good point. And now that I think about it, I hear women reference men this way more than the other way around. I think it's typically true in the service industry. Bartenders, servers, nurses, cashiers, receptionists, etc.
I think any woman offended by terms of endearment is an idiot and a product of feminist brainwashing. I mean, who cares? I never refer to strange women by those names, but I see nothing wrong with it. When did women become so cold and cunty? I hate that shit. Personally, I like it when a woman calls me honey or sweetie, even if it's not exactly genuine. It still makes me feel good for a second when I hear it.
I don't really care what people call me. Call me fucktard if you want...not a single shit will be given What is weird to me, however, is when some trashy WOMAN calls me honey...who the fuck are you to me?!
So if a woman who you don't know takes offense to you calling her pet names then she is cold and cunty? You sound like a neanderthal. Have you tried calling a strange man one of those names? Not giving women the same respect that a man is given just puts off a very misogynistic stench.
And I suppose catcalls and whistles are compliments and we should appreciate being objectified, too. I don't live in the deep south, around here people say ma'am or sir. If some random car salesman called me honey I would be creeped out and leave. I know, who told those bitches they could come out of the kitchen?
Well, I don't call women by pet names unless I know them. But I don't see anything particularly wrong with calling a woman "honey" or "sweetheart," though I suppose as a first time greeting it would seem out of place. I just don't see why such a big deal is made in modern society over something as pointless as words and who says them to who. People should just chill the fuck out and learn to love one another instead of getting offended over stupid bullshit like this.
See, I don't see why this should make a difference since you're still a male. Double standards piss me off so much.
Hello, Kettle? This is The Pot, you're black... You don't like anyone and you expect us all to love one another?
no way, no how.....totally awkward if it's a stranger. Yet I don't say anything. Long time friendships, or those that have been rapidly intimate (ie confidants), I'm ok with it.
Generally I agree with this but he was specific that they are good girlfriends, so those terms seem endearing.