Legitimacy of the bible as a historical document?

I assume you are American. So how can you understand what the fuck He says to you through that indecipherable Aussie accent of His??

 

I like a sane response.

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DL

 

Yes and he spelled out the consequence. One consequence.

Yet he broke his covenant by adding on both positive and negative consequences.

That is not a moral God. A moral God keeps his word.
As is written, the talking snake was more honest than God.

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DL

 

Aussie?

That is a French accent mon ami.
Clean out your hears eh.

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DL

 

Well i dont think sane responses are relevent. And if so then just completely boring. And it was just a small rant i just felt i needed to do. I wanted to keep going with some of the many contradictions I know of.
And i personaly dont think of god as a he or anything even close to that. well obviously. And i hope no one was actualy serious about that. but im sure you arent. But good thread guys!

 

I am sorry that I skipped over this before and responding so late. I hope it isn't too late to reply.

Good question. Asking if it has been corrupted then going from there would show whether or not if it was meant to be. Jesus has said, and you may not believe it's reliable, that not a single letter would pass away, so there is the theological basis. But since you believe he may have been misquoted then that may not be reliable for you. With that, I go back to saying how much power do you thing God would have in this matter? What have Jesus' followers done to spread the message?

The historical basis is a whole other can of worms and something like that needs a lot of delving into, but it seems in my study that what was quoted of him is reliable. An example of this is that the gospel writers, while writing their gospels, did not compare documents to each other, yet the accounts match and fit together like a puzzle. So either they have a very good memory, or they had a bit of help from God.

 

How is that a broken promise? The promise broken was made by the serpent since he was proven to be a liar and God was the one telling the truth. You take issue with the options available and the number of consequences and equating that as a promise broken when the promises offered was life or death. There was no broken promises since that is what was promised.

 

I was having a conversation like this a few months back with my little sister and then she said what if the bible was Put here by the devil? That just blew me away. Now I do Not believe in the bibles terminology for the devil or hell. But what she said brings out some interesting thought.
The devil creating such a thing. To blindly follow religion instead of naturally creating our own beliefs through out our lives. And all the evil that comes after it's creation also. And obligation to follow insane leaders. And take away common sense.
It is definatly plausible that it could have been written by a devil. Or just Man..
Haha sorry guys another response that is surely not sane.. But the current conversation reminded me of it

 

What a pathetic mind.

On your Bible literacy. How much should we literally believe a book that is clearly myth based, with talking animals etc.
Remember that your book of myths also says that Satan will decieve us all.

As to the Eden story, show where the snake lied or where God told A & E of the other consequences like their eyes being opened and the earth being cursed---- before they actually ate of the tree of knowledge.

As to your literal reading.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/doubtingexodus.htm

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DL

 

Even if you want to assume they are myths, It is pretty clear from the account given that they knew that eating from the tree would cause them death. The serpent said otherwise, but they died. All of these occurred only after Satan got involved and after they both succumb to the temptation.

What were their eyes opened to? Did they notice anything worthwhile? Did they die when the serpent said they would not? What kind of death? Physical? Spiritual? Both?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

Under Historicity > Archeology There will be multiple takes on the information. Many scholars say different things.

As for Satan deceiving all, Mark 13:22 "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible."

 

If?

Make up your mind. Are you a literalist or not?

As to if I want to believe they are myth, I would reverse it and ask you why you think a book with talking animals and ton's of impossible miracles is not myth?

As to why I thing animals that talk are myth. Do you not see how obvious the answer is?

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DL