Let's be honest here: chicks who don't sleep with you the first night

Value is in the eye of the beholder. You see women hitting on me as something very valuable (to the point of being improbable that I possess it), because you do not have this happen to you. I see it as a reality that I have to work with. It is flattering, and fun, but because of my non-single status, and because of societal stereotypes about men chasing women, it can also cause a great deal of social friction. I don't think I'm incredibly good looking, but I do think I'm pretty good looking, and that I've got a REALLY good intuitive understanding of human behavior and mentality, including that of women, and I think more importantly, I send out a vibe that is very attractive. I'm trying to get at your vibe with you, and to address how your attitude is affecting your vibe which is affecting your situations which are affecting your attitude it's cyclical. As soon as you stop with the negativity, the "using" mentality, I think you'll see you will start to attract a better crowd, if you have patience. Of course I could be wrong and even underestimating just how insanely lucky I am, which is quite possible.

ps. I could hold off ejaculation for 4 hours if I wanted to as well! Funny though, we approach it as a "problem" and my gf and I have been working on getting me to cum sooner for a long time. We're down to around 45 minutes right now. Perspective is everything that goes for me too. maybe when i'm 20 years older i'll be thinking just like you. who knows.

 

i miss when hipforums had this smiley:

i bookmarked it anyway; it should come in handy quite a bit.

 

I know its confusing cos the girls like to talk...alll the fuckin time...on just about any topic that pops in to their head, so one may assume they cant keep silent on anything. There are a few exceptions, that last paragraph being one of them.

You say you plan on getting married, once you get past the annulment phase, 12 months, and things start to mysteriously dry up, and you are planning a fling with the secretary or whomever, for your own sake, just keep your mouth shut, at least dont say things like in that last paragraph, keep it all a mystery, you may end up being a big disappointment, but she wont know that till you've gotten at least one night

 

OP,

No, no and no! Girls worry about being perceived as "easy" and losing your respect, or becoming booty call fodder. There have been lots of times when I'm DYING to do everything in the book with a new guy, but have held off because I'm hoping for something longer term.

Think of it this way: the girl might be holding off because she's hoping there will be plenty of time for that later. The vast majority of the time, it has nothing to do with not wanting to.

 

If that were the case, I would assume she would pick up the phone. Or, is there some vaginal mayonnaise voodoo to explain that too?

 

So you nearly make it to 3rd base with the chick and you never heard from her again? That's interesting...

 

Oh, is it? I thought it was run-of-the-mill...

 

Ok I got a question...

Why is a guy thats posting in the I banged 100+ girls thread, posting a thread like this? I would think you've already got all this covered already?

 

You mean, get it covered like you of course.

I'm certainly sure no girl ever plays games with you. Must be your confident, smooth, manly charm with juuust the right amount of sensitivity.

Whereas in my case, my woman-hater vibes telepathically travel the airwaves across the spectrum sending dry-up signals to vaginae world over.

 

Maybe you should meet my sister. She shrivels penae from 5 blocks away. You two could analyze how others could bring out the best in you.

 

I don't know. Normally when things go that well they're blowing up your phone in anticipation of round 2. What kind of girls are these you're seeing?

 

that could be true but the confusion for men is when they know a woman will hook up or do a booty call for casual sex but hold out because they have 'feelings' for a guy. If you don't want to be perceived as slutty and want a meaningful relationship then don't have casual sex when you are single. Either you want to take it slow so things last ( a very understandable desire) or you just want to get fucked. you can't mix and match. The male part of the brain can't differentiate between these two impulses occurring simultaneously in the same woman.

 

lol. I think it's a blue pill, red pill thing. We must live in diametrically opposite worlds. No girl has ever blown up my phone, ever. I claim full credit for not being a virgin. I am the self-made man of sex.

Edit: The only way girls have blown up my phone was to control me after I had already had sex with them. To make sure they had no competitors.

Edit2: I can think of one example of a chick blowing up my phone after having stood me up a couple of times, so she had already lost me. I did fuck that one, though. Only once by her own insistence. There was an ex who stalked me for about a decade after we broke up too.

 

obviously your approach is wrong.

Last Summer my wife read and re-read (and re-read again) the 50 Shades books. she used to tell people I was a vanilla Christian Gray, not because of the money or the looks but because of the ferocity of my passion. I've never been handsome, have a blah body, don't dress well and have never had money but I always got laid on the 1st or 2nd date. it happened because I am a big guy with a powerful, sometimes overwhelming personality with a gift for conversation. I would pick an interesting restaurant, order some wine, get a woman to start telling me her life story to create an emotional energy and then kiss them. I am a great kisser and that was all it took. when we got back to her place more kissing would move to her ears and then her neck and bam the clothes were off. I love to nurse on breasts and after a few minutes of that every woman's pussy became wet and juicy. while not massively endowed my cock has been enough to satisfy most women so relationships for me started with sex immediately but I never held that against a woman, it's just how things are with me.

the key to success with the opposite sex is being confident, having a sense of humor and being passionate, not money or good looks. My wife used to get chided by her friends for having confidence like she looked Barbie despite being short and fat with glasses. My wife is very charismatic, she attracts people, they dig her. She is beautiful, gorgeous, sexy as hell because of her personality.

Work on yourself and you will get laid effortlessly.

 

Self made man of sex… I like that . You should make that your title instead of “hall passer.”

But I can’t believe you’ve never had the phone blowup before. Not that you’re missing anything cause it’s more annoying than flattering. I guess the key is to make yourself more unavailable, and they’ll typically try that much harder. Of course it depends on the girl, etc.

And being stood up sucks. I was really pissed the last time that happened to me. The girl was the biggest fucking tease. I should’ve known better than to waste my time with her, but at the time I was stupidly thinking with the wrong head.

 

I dated a guy before that slept around but wanted to take things slow with me. It's not just a female thing. Sex can make things messy when actual feelings are involved so sometimes it's better for both genders to wait if there is real potential there

 

and sex without real feeling can be messy too, especially when someone who really likes you finds out you've slept around in the past.

I'm no saint and I rushed into sex immediately every time but it either became a monogamous relationship or it ended up being a one night stand that went nowhere and I never saw them again. that happened a few times and each of those experiences were completely unfulfilling. I never had a 'friends with benefits' situation. in other words the sex was great and we both wanted more or it was bad and did not.

 

Doesn't fit my profile, and I have a feeling it wouldn't work either way.

Being a hall passer is important to me. Do you know what a hall pass is?

 

Perhaps not. But sometimes playing a little hard to get can play to your advantage. I know it goes against the standard norms of the male role in dating. But believe it or not I’ve had a lot of success by reversing a lot the same game women use on men, and playing it back on themselves. It’s a rather interesting irony.

I feel as though I should, but I don’t believe I do.