Liars

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Autentique, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. lode

    lode Banned

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    I myself don't even think I lie, other then 'you look good' kinds of white lies. But it's so integrated in our psyche. I am a writer, and I tell lots of jokes.

    I've got that Noriega quote in my sig. It was hilarious at the time... it was a lie of course. I'm not a Noriega man. :D
     
  2. myself

    myself just me

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    Sometimes lies are very useful in order to avoid unnecessary discussions or conflicts with some people...
     
  3. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Yeah, I guess we are on the same page.
    And yes, we all do end up in the same source from which we came...In that way we are all the same and in the same position.
    And yes, it is temporary..Life is temporary. I think of life as nothing more than just a preparation for something far bigger. Which doesnt mean life is just waiting for death. We are given gifts from God, or the Creator as you said, and its our duty to learn and grow...
    If I wasnt religious, I'd be pretty damn lost , confused and hopeless. My life would be pointless. I somehow just cant believe that this life is it. God wouldnt have created his children only to live this life. He wouldnt have given them souls if there wasnt much more. Its not the game he's playing...;)
     
  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Im sort of the same, but worse. I lie to my son's mom about how much juice I give my son in a day (we disagree on the sugar situation), I lie about how I feel so I have an excuse to be grumpy, I lie about how much money I make to most people (sometimes more sometimes less, depends!), I lie about not using drugs, I lie about not drinking beer, I lie about how much or how little I sleep, I lie at work FOR A LIVING! (monetary values, that is, Im a part time broker), I lie about being happy when Im actually depressed or miserable, and Im sure there's much more. I've lied twice in relationships to girls about my feelings, I've stolen thousands of dollars as a teenager bent on self destruction and caught in an opiate frenzy, I lied to a priest in 4th grade about not masturbating during confession, I lied to my mom about a million times, and I lied to my dad and told him I enjoy seeing him.
    If I can think of more of my lower points in life with lying, I'll share them. I could really care less what anyone thinks of me, because I never lie to hurt people with evil intentions, I only lie to prevent myself from having to face uncomfortable adversity. One thing I never lie about is my love for God and would always share that love with anyone willing to join me. Sadly, that's the one (and biggest) part of my life that very few are willing to share with me.
     
  5. lode

    lode Banned

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    You were masturbating by the 4th grade? nice.
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Nothing you said is terrible.You are just a human being....And thats it.
    We all lie.
    I do lie too. But I am serious when it comes to religion, although I dont really like to discuss it because I always get people laughing or looking weird at me.
    Yes, I believe in God. Yes, God is what I love the most.
    If that makes me weird or funny , so let it be.
     
  7. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Lol.
    I wanted to say the same thing, but I didnt...
     
  8. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    I figure if a person would be hurt by the thruth, or if the truth will get me hurt (i.e. a guy with a gun in my face aska question that will likely get me killed if answered correctly) then yes I will lie like a mother fucker~!

    Maybe to the IRS too, maybe I consider this a more grey area, ;)
     
  9. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    That's Philly babe, you know how we do ;)
    I was 10 when I started that business, I think I was 10 in 4th grade. May have been 5th but my catholic school memories are a blur
     
  10. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    I think everyone lies in certain situations, yet not everyone is a liar.
    I do believe we must trear everyone with compassion and respect and I dont think myself better t han anyone else, but is lying to somone, going into a make believe game of things that it's obvious will confuse and hurt this person a way of treating anyone with compassion and respect? a way of treating them with love?
    We all make mistakes and sometimes is our own personal confusion that makes us lie, but once a person keeps playing the same game, is hard to understand the why behind the situation.
    Love is a verb. We show love to others through our actions and I really dont think playing mind games is one of the ways. I've seem way too many people say things, to get a certain reaction from others and in those cases, I think is better to stay silent and do without.
     
  11. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    I probably lie too much, if one can lie too much. it just makes life so much easier, and I'm not the type of person who adheres to a rigid principle. nevertheless I feel I should stop, since usually it's a byproduct of the tricks my ego plays on me.
     
  12. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    I used to lie more when I was younger, because I never wanted to get in trouble or didnt want people to be mad with me. Though I could really say that I only lied to my family and probably in school.
    I would never lie to my friends, no matter what the situation. I think there are ways than everything can be said, I try to be as honest as I can, because I would always feel that if I wasnt the people around me wouldnt know who I am and to me it was/is so important that they did.
    Right now there this one thing I havent really been honest about to my parents and it makes me feel so incredibly guilty, but I've started to slowly break it down and explain.
     
  13. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm a little abrasive. I say "that's not true" once or twice a day on average - even when I am mistaken and someone is saying something that is fact.

    I like to be right.
     
  14. Detox

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    i tell them an even bigger better lie to make them feel inferior. then i laugh and leave them to bask in the awe of my lie.
     
  15. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I lie quite a bit, I think. Not sure that it's close to compulsion, but I do keep secrets both mine and others from people, I divert people's opinions of myself by answering people in riddles or open-ended questions and I tell people lies to trick them, pull a prank, tease or surprise people.

    I will close the conversation that makes me uncomfortable with a lie sometimes. It's not because I want to hurt the person, or that I think they are stupid - but because I am not ready to open up just yet to people. Some people won't leave you alone with a question when they are curious, (especially girls) and if you tell them that you don't want to answer, they begin to make assumptions that are rather askew from the truth.

    I really like having a few of my own secrets - just for me alone. Always have. Some thoughts are mine and I don't always want to share them when a person will ask me a question. So on occasion, I will lie to change the subject.

    I can't say that is a compulsion, just a reaction and a way of protecting my own personal thoughts.

    The serious lies that I have told in my life - have surfaced - and they always will. I consider myself to be an honest person at heart.
     
  16. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    Liars are weak. There's no better way of describing them. Or maybe they have these.. plans in their head and will lie to get what they want. Weak. Low. I am not gonna say I've never lied, but if I have, whoever I've lied to already knows the truth, and I won't deny I wasn't weak and low when I lied. I don't lie much. I despise those who do too much to lower myself to their level. Lies can fuck a lot of things up. Lies are good for pre-schoolers. And I'm one of the greatest lie-detector there is.
     
  17. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand yes!!!! that was my bitter answer of the night :D
     
  18. Hyphy

    Hyphy Duke of Earl

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    I use eye accessing cues to spot liars. just like the boys in blue do.
     
  19. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    I just know when I can't trust someone, when they're bullshitting me, it not only in their face, it's their entire behavior. I don't know it sorta comes out as obvious to me, first glance. I *sense* it haha.. but I'm not even kidding. And I've never been wrong.
     
  20. lode

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    That was pretty funny. :D
     
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