hmm, well, the war on terrorism is obviously working wonders, all those people who voted conservative in this country over the last few decades, all the people who voted for the right in America... Those are the people that gave power to the right wing governments, the governments that sold the arms to the middle east, invested in the use of oil for it's high revenue returns rather than spending heavily and wisely in alternative forms of energy production.... the western governments made this problem the size it's become, and they have fuelled it for their own greedy motives and they still do. As the war on terror was obviously going to do, it has made us a greater target and escalated the problem still further. Tony Blair wouldn't listen to the people of this country when they overwhelmingly said no to war. He sided with Bush, he was manipulated by Bush, eitherway same result.... I could go on, but what's the point.
Or the man who's family is killed by stray American (or English) bombs? It's not as if innocent people aren't getting killed with the rest over there, and they all have families. Look at this hypothetical situation from my point of view: George Bush decides he doesn't like Paul Martin (the Canadian PM if you aren't aware) and decides it's time for a 'regime' change. He starts bombing the shit out of Canadian cities trying to find the 'terrorists' who fight back. A bomb misses and wipes out my little sister, or my mother or father, or a friend. I'd feel pretty justified killing a couple American citizens who propped up that douchebag president they have. Dunno, I feel for the families of the dead, but they shouldn't have been stupid enough to reelect Tony Blair. Fucking warmonger.
You are a complete fucking idiot. Seriously, you're letting politics justify your harsh attitude....and that's just not right. Spineless liberals like you piss me off.
Reading about that this morning.. I knew somehow people would find a way to blame the U.S... The U.S.A. being the sole cause of all of the worlds problems of course.
What you do is you place the main bombs and set them to go off, then you set several less effective bombs to go off mmmmm half an hour later. You place the bomb in the subway, and all the second bombs at the entrances. So anybody that wanders in to see after the blast gets blasted. They say they found a couple bombs that hadn't gone off yet. Thats smart of them, they were thinking like the enemy.
...... the super patriotic vengeance hopping has already begun, only one guy said al queda, a foriegn minister last I'd heard anyway, that we're hunting for someone to blame already endangers, makes it possible for us to become what we will be attacking in six months when this is used as pretense to attack iran...... just make sure that you remember what you say, I said stupid things around september 11, I regret them, please don't allow the same to happen to yourself.....
.......the media lies, that's why we focus on minutia instead of real problems or issues live with it or get a server and start a stream on winamp or some other shit...
I don't think you seriously believe they picked out individuals that voted for Blair.. It was indiscriminate race/religeon/POV/man/woman/child... They clearly did not give a shit.. blind to everything but there fundemental ideals. These are not intrepid people hoping to have any diplomatic conversations with anyone. If your scenario happened, would you then attack attack attack kill kill kill. If it was the man off the street defending his home and family then fine (to a certain degree), this is not the case though. The vast majority of them have had no 'loss' at all, they then claim 'i do it honour of my countrymen' what a load of crap. Like i said they kill there own people and have organised fighters that are not even iraqi (probably why they are not concerned if some iraqis die) .. You can hold the POV you have, but i very much doubt you are going to wish me dead for not agreeing with you. War is War (even though technicaly it is not..minor details), i am not going to argue about that we would be here all our lives.
I'm following this thread with interest but really all I care about is that these bombers are caught as soon as possible & this terrorist cell is permanently shut down. Politicians talk shit & soldiers fire into you to make your shit pour out;but innocent people on their way to work on trains & buses are killed & injured in huge numbers.
Originally Posted by spooner Regardless of what they do to themselves, its no business of yours. Your soldiers have killed innocent civilians in both Iraq and Afghanistan. No wonder they're pissed off, I don't think its that hard to understand. In Iraq, the innocent are being killed by the Insurgency The Coalition targets Bathists and Jihiadists. How about some credit for the partnership trying to build a democratic modern Iraq?