Looks like an attack on Iran is now very imminent

I wish that were the case. But isn't informing a sleeping populace a little more important than keeping oneself alive and doing a little good?? The greatest thing one could do is alart the American public nationally. If he were to be such a hero, the people would certainly protect him. He doesn't care about us, look up HR347 he's saying that it is a felony charge to protest around secret service agents, even if you don't know they're there!!! You can't even tell Obama "I Don't like your policies!!" Because that is protesting our all-powerful government.

 

I agree. StpLSD should resist the urge to make every thread about Obama and the american sheeple. Yes they are valid points but that does not mean it should be the focus of your posts in every freaking thread. This thread is focussed about the problems in the strait of Hormuz and the threat of Israël and Iran getting into serious conflict. Of course the U.S. goverment plays a role in this too but internal problems of american politics fit better in other threads :2thumbsup:

 

The points he makes are not valid. He blames Obama for what the obstructionist cons have done the last four years. I think he is a paid propagandist for the GOP.

If Obama wins in November you will see the liberal side of Obama come out. As of now Obama has had to appear more in the middle. He's been trying to negotiate with the republicans so they can't label him a extremist lefty. But after the election he won't be running for a third term, so he will not have to negotiate with the obstructionists. The bloated military budget will be cut and the troops brought home. Healthcare, Social Security and education will be saved. Millionaires and corporations will be taken off welfare (end tax cuts for the rich). Big Wall Street banks will be split up, so they can't risk peoples money on bad bets. Businesses will end their practice of having factories in China, where they get fifty cents an hour labor. The infrastructure (bridges and roads) will be fixed, creating many jobs. Subsidies to big oil and pharmaceutical companies will be cut, and penalties will be put in place for price gouging. The cons will be kicking a screaming for another four years, and doing as many filibusters as they can. But if a lot of teabaggers are kicked out in November it will force the GOP to rethink their strategy.

If Romney wins, we get world war three, total economic collapse, the end of healthcare, social security, women's rights, education, and the middle class.

So don't let the anarchists fool you. There is a big difference between the cons and the libs, and one of the two will be setting the agenda in January.

 

I just love downrating every one of rjhandjob's posts. Everything he posts is idiotic, because only idiots believe there is a difference between the two stooges given to vote for each election.

Fucking **** doesn't realize the same banks that own Romney own Obama, too.

 

In all honesty, though, Obama is the lesser of the two evils. If one is going to vote, it is better, after all, to vote for the slightly better of the two.

 

StpLSD feeds into dialectic thinking as well (every bit as much as rjhandjob), since Obama is just a puppet who runs nothing and makes NO decisions himself. I don't like Obama because he is an arrogant and bad acting figurehead for evil. But I would be an idiot to think that any of the decisions he makes are truly his. They're not. If Romney gets in it will be the same shit with a different mask, since Romney is beholden to the same puppetmasters as Obama.

Haven't people woken up yet to the fact the presidents are simply actors? That is really all they are. They basically just read off a teleprompter what someone else writes for them. Yet we STILL believe they are the ones calling the shots. Amazing.

 

I am tired of hearing this from people. Honestly, how is he the lesser of two evils?

Even if he was the lesser of two evils, evil is still evil. People with a moral compass and integrity don't stoop to the low of voting for someone simply because they are "less evil" than the other person.

Fuck that! If people want to lick the bottom of a urinal they can -- I'm not.

 

Welcome to my point of view.

 

I would not dismiss every post of rjhangover by definition but I just thought there are enough better fitting threads to ramble on about it. Yes, I'm not an american and I get irritated by posts about your internal shit in every thread that has to do with news or politics. If it was just one post and ignored but there's always another person that is willing to bring it further offtopic. It's cool you have an opinion but just keep it in the right place is what I ask.

 

My opinion is that rjhandjob is some kind of paid operative or provocateur, possibly someone working for Odumbo's re-election campaign. Then again, I am probably giving him too much credit.

 

Pressed_Rat, are you voting in the election? If so, for whom and why? If not, how do you reconcile attempting to better the country by not casting your vote?

 

No, I am not voting and I will never vote in some phony, rigged, bullshit election between two corporate criminals torn from the same cloth, who only pretend to be different. If you think partaking in that will "better the country," I truly feel for your lack of insight into the way things really work vs. the fairy tale sold to you by the media.

My opinion is that America is a cess pool, and the best thing that can happen at this point is that it falls. Therefore, whoever wins is just fine with me.

 

Your ignorance truly astounds me. If you feel that the country is such a horrible place to live, then by all means move to another country.

 

What if all people that doubt about the usefulness of their vote would vote on this Ron Paul guy (for example). I mean I understand there's a lot of people over there not voting so if all those lost votes would go to some guy who doesn't have a chance now (and ever cause not enough peeps will ever use their vote on him) he would get so many votes it can not be ignored right. Yes I understand I go offtopic now as well

Have not looked at it like that. Let's see if he makes some posts that aren't Obama related

 

Didn't Reagan prove this? He was an actor, literally an actor picked by someone at some point to enter into politics. He was such a great actor that many people still think he was the greatest president of all time.

I think its sort of the equivalent of suggesting one should vote for Hitler because Stalin killed more people.

 

What about the governator

 

He's too busy feeling up the help.

 

The Book of Revs is a book of symbols, can mean anything, to anyone, can justify anything, to anyone, ultimately means nothing, to anyone. Nobody has lived a life closer to the bone of truth due to Book of Revelations.

 

Sure be nice if all these cocksuckers that run everything would just grow the fuck up and attempt to normalize relations around the globe ,instead of making the whole world their playground of dangerous toys. 3rd graders shakin' their little dicks and deciding everything about everyone ,without anyone being able to stop them is getting really old. "We" HAVE to get past this intense desire to own everything everyone else has and to quit the killing and posing over it. This "New World Order" shit is delaying the inevitable changes that will have to happen in order for ANYONE to survive. I'm beginning to think that the only way humanity is ever going to evolve past the present state of stupidity and avarice, is if a benevelent dictator comes from outer space,shakes his finger at us like the dumb-asses we are and says--"give you a year to stop all wars,get everyone sustained and never act the way you've been acting again or BAM--good bye earth!" Sooooooo--that's not happening and we're dicked. Just bend over and take it like a human.

 

Believing it's a book of symbols for right wing christians is living in denial. To the evangelical republicans it's ALL literal, not symbols. They really are trying to make Armageddon happen. Of course, when the pin hits the shell, they aren't about to let a long haired hippie liberal(Jesus) take over the government.