Losing Faith !Please Read! Long but Insightful

semantics.

By traditional, I mean in the anthropological sense. Original.

 

Forgive my repetition, but by original, I mean the spiritual views that are, for the most part, shared by the tribal peoples, globally. If I had to pick one as being the 'most' original, I would say the Australian one, as it apparently is 40 000 years old.

 

No, where do you get that idea? I never said that. I said I hold tribal spiritual values as being the closest to my own faith. That is all, any more is your spin.

 

Not at all, just that it is the oldest, to my knowledge. You are assuming much, and making conclusions that are not based on my words.

 

I do not reconcile it. I am sure there are thousands of variations. The local First Nations people have a spiritual outlook that I feel close to. Nuff sed.

 

and who isn't, I just tell you what I believe, and if that is hypocritical to you, so be it. I cannot deny it. I think we all are to a point, or else are lying.
I never claimed to know the 'right' answer, and only share my 'beliefs', which I do not see as being very hypocritical in relation to most others I hear.

 

Well, that ended on a positive note, with us both agreeing with each other.
Good day to you too.

Ken

 

I agree that it is an important difference. I can only say that my views are based on my experiences, which in some cases have been very clearly beyond logical explanation. This is likely the reason that I can accept my premise while you and others find it impossible to do so. For example, I have, in the course of my lifetime, had about six very detailed, exact, and otherwise inconsequential, precognitive dreams. Anyone who does not believe this, will most likely not share my views, since this very irrational yet real phenomena is a part of my basis for the beliefs I hold.

 

I used to be a christian and came to this same down state of disbeleif for about a year. I now have a strong beleif in taoism. I beleive very strongly in the philosiphies, yet with some skeptisizm twards the alchemy aspect. I hold strong to my faith not because it makes me accept some great beyond, yet it simply helps me to realize, why do I care, wasting thought on death is to the denial of life.

 

Who can blaim you, how odd isn't the christian faith depending on a book with dussins of odd mistakes and corruptions.

 

Yes, and I also admit that if I was given time alone with a indisputably proven serial killer, I would do my best to kill him. The vagaries of individual quirks is endless. He was apparently one quarter Jewish on his mom's side, too. I just feel that there is a big difference in that I think he'd have fewer people that would support his plan as being 'helpful', or 'good'. I know that some would, but I would hope that most people see genocide as inherently evil. My views, I hope, would be more universally accepted as not being harmful.
I also must admit that I am no saint, and doubt I have lived a day when I did not do or say many things I consider wrong.

 

i follow jesus (if you want to call me a christian then go for it) and i don't live in a shell.

 

it's figurative, asshole

 

You can't test God is an incorrect statement. The Bible, His word can be tested by history and by prophecies. That is why the Bible encourges us to study it. Jesus Christ fullfilled over 300 prophecies from the Old Testament alone and then we have the future prophecies that speak of His second coming. You think it is an accident that after 2000 years the Jews just happen to show up in Israel again. The Bible predicted this, and stated that the generation that saw this would not pass away until all prophecies in scripture would be fulfilled. The future of the world is recorded within its pages. Your coming out of your shell sounds like the same lie Eve was made to believe in the garden. The Devil sang that same song to her to. She found out the only one's backing her up, were demons. Don't make the same mistake.