Like i said before in this thread i can't really help argueing with people if they are saying stuff that i don't thinks right its just the way i am but yeah ok i'll lay off.
You're not arguing man, you're just repeating the same statement. "You're wrong, I'm right." I like to argue too. Just give me something worth replying to.
That's because people like neodude and pork are repeating the same arguement over and over again, so what else am i supposed to do besides backing it up the same way over and over?
i'm trying to explain the same point in as many diff ways as i can sometimes you seem to agree only to disagree again some of the things you've said just make no sense, and i think you are using some words incorrectly, although i could be wrong (the brain perceiving the mind?) i just don't understand how you can't grasp the difference between an object that is tangible (maybe try looking up the definition of that word?) and one that is not. if i havn't made it clear enough, the tangible object we were discussing was the brain and the intangible one is the mind this conversation is going nowhere thoguh, and i'd honestly rather spend my time talking about something a little more worthwhile and more intelligent
you sayin i dont know how to percivev up in this bitch? mohfuckka i been percivin up in this bitch fo nuff time
i cant help but find the whole argument ridiculous. as if anyone really knows what the fuck is going on down here on planet earth, 3rd dimension, human being 2009. come on...who else is willing to admit that they dont know shit? why do we human beings feel the need to set up a framework in which our understanding of reality can rest unthreatened? s'called dogma, and it means nothing, tends to do more harm than good. some wise chinese man would probably tell us, if our minds cling to nothing, we leave nothing to defend, nothing to lose. a man like that would have a great capacity to learn, as nothing would taint his vision. not saying i agree with you all though, lol
I was really about to make the same comment but you beat me to it. I mean half this shit isn't even actual philosophy but just petty semantics, and the egotism kind of disgusts me to be honest...
ding ding ding, we have two more winners (the last two posts) you guys are right (i mean not that i'm admitting i'm wrong about the petty argument, just that i'm wrong for arguing...)haha it is just semantics, and i'll admit i sometimes get caught up in stupid arguments, and make many other types of mistakes in this life for that matter. i try to be intelligent and understanding and caring, etc. but i'll admit it - i'm not the wise chinese man you mentioned. i'm still young and have a lot of things to learn. and to be honest, i think i'm gonna learn a lot more from conventional education than from psychedelics. sometimes i get the vibe that some people here (including myself - i'm not trying to argue seriously just talk..or type) have an inflated ego in a different sense. that b/c they take psychedelics, they feel they are enlightened, and like to talk in vague mysterious ways like they are a prophet or something. or a pyschic (low blow i know) and i don't rule out the possibility if anyone is psychic here it's freshdacre, it aint me so if we can't talk semantics, how can we talk about stuff that is more complicated - like the interaction of psychedelics with the mind- the point of this forum and of the OP (i think) i'm sorry for coming off the way i do and i'd glady sit in the same room with all of you guys and discuss this in a civil manner i just like to ramble and get in conversations like this, and since i don't know too many "heads" in real life - fellow psychonauts if you will...well i talk about it here. guess i'm getting sappy now, and maybe it's kinda lame,but i think of some of you guys as friends in a way. like even though i don't know you, i know some part of your personality, and you know some part of mine. in my case maybe it's not always my best side. i'm just sayin, i'm comfortable talking in this type of atmoshpere, so maybe i got carried away i don't mean to offend anyone but let's not turn into a bunch of sensitive sally's not pointing fingers, if anyone is being sensitive it's probably me so here we go, i'm snapping out of it after all, it only the fuckin internetz!!!1111 lol
Ok thats a respectable post pork, and i agree there is no point in all this argueing. Mabey i came off as an egotistical prick or something, if i did then i'm sorry but it doesn't make a difference to me because in my perspective i was just holding my side of the arguement. I know that my ego is inflated in the sense that psycadelics can make me feel like god and such but i really don't see the harm in it, because life is all we got, and we have to feel as awesome as possible to make life worthwhile. I also admit that i have alot of learning to be had, and that i might be a little over confident in the things i do know, because i might not know everything about what i think i know.
IDk what this arguments about because I just read the first page and now I'm here. But I think LSD has some kinds of mind powers. Like if I'm trippin I always feel like I'm talking to gods or aliens or something higher up, ya know?
aye, and eYe can say that eYe for ONE am probably included lol. i do present myself on these forums a bit differently than i do in my personal life though. to a degree, but only as a means of cultivating the parts of myself that need work and resonance. we all like to play mystic in the psychedelic forums, the root being that when one imparts wisdom it is merely a realization of ones own virtue. ... just openin up my heartspace, expanden my head trips