LSD is illegal. But do you know WHY?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Gelfling, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. 2Fresh

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    Tripping zombies can't be tax paying, consumer zombies, which is the governments ultimate goal.
     
  2. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    theyre all out to get us arr, run.
    im in a prison of my own emotion, government laws like razorblades as i lie slowly dieing.
     
  3. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    just gammin
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Well I mean obviously it's much more progressive for society if everybody is spun and can't do anything but stare at the wall right?
     
  5. Grapefruity

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    I wonder if use would go up or down though.

    I am certain a few minds could get something progressive for society in the wall staring that is the experience, but if legality makes use go up, people will start dropping out I imagine and not much help.
     
  6. High Priest

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    I would like to say, in order to have a more profound affect, those in here who say things like "Tripping zombies can't be tax paying..." have a good point, but are saying it outside of the terms of clear-cut logic and debate. I think, quite simply, LSD was made illegal because it was a catalyst for a counter cultural movement. Nixon, trying to ignore anti-war protests, did the right thing to kill a culture that was fueled by psychedelics.

    Now, to go further on that, I think people in here are saying "it's illegal because it's dangerous" are wrong. Well, you are wrong even if LSD really is dangerous. The misconceptions about LSD were brought out in the fashion of "prove we're wrong!" when people came up with bullshit theories about why drugs and LSD were dangerous. Just like there is the stigma of "stinking hippies", people seek validation whether it comes from a logical source or not.

    LSD, if it really is dangerous, should be only used responsibly. Go ahead and make the argument that people can't do so unregulated, and I make two arguments from this: 1. Then regulate it to special, tested and regulated environments set by government standard, then make those who are regulated pay for the license. or

    2. I don't think people driving a car should have to wear a seatbelt or those on a motorcycle a helmet. Your safety is YOUR responsibility. Similarly, drunk driving kills a lot of people, which I think is shit, but I don't think making alcohol illegal is the answer to this. As a behaviorist, I think controlling behavior is the answer. Right now, rather than doing that with freedom of choice paired with moderate regulation and education, they're doing it with guns and fear education.

    So right now I see that we have two problems: We make LSD illegal with the idea that people are too irresponsible to use it, yet ironically we don't do the same with alcohol, and IMO don't do enough to stop the abuse of alcohol. You can't have your cake and eat it too!

    So in summary: The government and rich people a lot of money from beer, and also LSD was a driving force in a counter cultural movement which had differing interest than the majority of people. Majority ruled, and personal freedoms were lost.
     
  7. JesusChristPose

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  8. sentient

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    actually its illegal because the process to manufacture it cannot be controlled via a licence for public consumption as there is a medical research only licence on it and the facilities for testing to make it a publicly safe drug is just too expensive with no garauntee of a result - why dont you ask a pharmaceutical company, I did, they would love to market it at you
    but wont spend the money on research as it has no benifits that are measurable within society
     
  9. Hemisphere

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    Er.. the only reason there's a medical research only license on the components of LSD is because the end product is illegal.
     
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