LSD Prices

I would love to find some LSD again, it's been way too long. It's no where to be found in my state.

 

yeah even my connects from back in the day just smoke the herb now--it seems like im even the only one even looking--wtf----

 

I think 50 a hit is insane. The most I've paid is 20 per and it was pretty good. But since it is hard to find in many areas I wouldn't blame anyone for paying that much per hit.

 

Yeah, I paid £10 (~$20) per hit for my first few trips. I think I would've paid more than that if they'd asked for it too, acid's elusive as hell until you have the connections. These were 250mic hits though to be fair, if they'd been your average 20-80ug street blotters then I dunno...

 

i guess i agree that if it was the only way, i might pay $50, but that is outrageous. 15-20 a hit is still expensive.

hey smith (both of you), how do you know the dose on your blotters?

and what's a tab? i thought that was the same thing as a blotter

 

I know my dose because I use a reliable vendor and I've had taken enough different doses to be able to gauge to within 20ug either way.

Generally a tab is the same as a blotter, I'm guessing tab is short for tablet as in pill here though.

 

Yeah, from what I've read it was pretty common for people to serve up 300-400ug hits. Those were the days, it seems.

 

I think I've heard blotter being called "tabs" before too...now how did that come about?

Your dealer finally finds some acid and he tells you he has 250 mic tabs! When you meet up he says "Tabs, yea, blotter, oh and it's only 80 mics a "tab" have fun! ::fist bump::

 

Well I knew the dosage of three different sources, and the rest was by bio-assay, taking a dose and comparing the subjective effects to those from the known dosages I had taken. Not perfect, but better than today when you are just relying on the word of a dealer who has a vested monetary interest in possibly exaggerating the strength of a given batch.

The three were; Purple Microdot tested to be 170ugs-190/200ugs per dose.
Liquid tested to be 100ugs per drop/hit and from the same source liquid at 150ugs per drop/hit.

These were confirmed by PharmChem labs who ran an anonymous testing program during the 1970's. You sent in a sample and received a id # and phone number to call. They would test then you call with your ID # and receive the results over the phone. They had no interest or profit to gain by falsifying the results and were doing it in answer to the rising amount of bad adulterants being used in street drugs and to gather statistical data. Remember the climate towards drugs at that time was much different than it is today.

We as in myself and dealers I was involved with at the time had LSD, PCP, Cocaine, and something we got called "T" tested. LSD I mentioned already, PCP 85% pure phencycledine,15% sugar based cut.
Cocaine tested at 93% pure, pink Peruvian flake, very nice indeed for coke
The stuff that was "T" looked like a hit of purple barrel acid but was actually LSD and PCP, I forget the exact amounts, but it had no more than about 70-80ugs of LSD. Got a story about snorting two hits of it at a Yes concert once, or what I remember, but not now.


Here is a link to an article on Erowid about the testing and an excerpt from that article:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml

PharmChem Data
In the early 1970s, prior to issuance of the DEA's guidelines, there were a few labs that actively analyzed street LSD. The most prominent of these labs was PharmChem, based in Palo Alto, California. Between 1972 and 1978, PharmChem solicited users to send in samples of chemicals purchased on the street. They then worked with labs around the country to provide testing results for the submitted samples.


Here is another article about more recent testing of street samples of LSD which is why I really question the strength people say they are getting. Statistics are on the side of low doses, yet most in these forums "brag" about how strong their doses they get are.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article3.shtml

I said it before and will say it again I doubt a lot of the people who frequent these forums and use acid have any idea of how strong 100ugs of LSD actually is. Sure you can take 1000ugs and not suffer ill effects, but 100ugs is still a pretty good dose. Remember Hoffman's description of his measured dose of 250ugs ? I only got effects like that, and a lot more, the time I took 3 of the aforementioned Purple Microdots, and that was between 500ugs and 600ugs based on the test results.

Remember that in the 60's and early 70's Owsley and Sand were turning out doses that averaged 250-300ugs, and a lot of people freaked out big time. Then the producers realized that in order to keep that from happening they needed to cut down the strength so it went too 200ugs, then 150ugs and onward down until you have the average doses we see today. The erowid article above covers this very well and succinctly.

Before anyone comes on here and calls me names and thinks I'm calling you liars and such, don't argue with me, argue with the statistical facts about LSD potency.
Unfortunately there are no longer labs that will test street samples like PharmChem did, so you have to rely on what your supplier tells you.
If you are told it's 100ugs and believe them, even though it may only be 50ugs. Without independent non biased testing, you will equate the effects of 50ugs as being those of 100ugs.

Sure you're going to encounter the 150ugs+ doses, but they are not as common as the reports in these forums would indicate. The last time I had some blotter and it was about ten years ago, admittedly a while back, it was, based on my previous experience, about 90-120ugs and I believe they were what every one refers to WoW. Two hits was awesome.

Please don't hate me for wanting to stick to statistical evidence rather than word of mouth.

 

Very informative links PB thanks.:cheers2:

 

i don't see how anyone could accurately judge a dose by comparing it to a known dose from the past. can't you take the same exact dose two different times and have vastly different trips?

how much did you have to send to be analyzed? i'd feel like i was wasting precious material. but i guess you probably had A LOT huh

 

True, I did say it was far from perfect, but actually anytime I dosed known amounts, the liquid I mentioned was available from the same source for over a year, I had the same effects. You can tell.
Remember the "content" of each trip may be different, but there are other aspects and effects that are the same and are dose dependant.
It's a chemical, not magical.

It is a lot better guideline than just what someone who, as I said, has a monetary motivation for making their product sound as good as possible tells you. Would you pay $10 a hit from someone if they told you it was only 70ugs a hit or would you buy from the guy saying it's 150ugs a hit? For all you really know until you take it the could be the same.
People tend to forget that dealers are in it too make money. Sure there may be the LSD disciple out there to turn on the world, but most are out to make a buck.

When we sent samples I believe they requested three if possible to better average the results and rule out a dose that was way below or above average. The microdots we sent three and the amounts I stated were based on the average of the three, slight differences in the actual size of the extruded pill accounted for the potency variation.
The liquid we sent five samples on plain blotter paper of the 100ugs and five drops in a vial for the 150ugs sample.
Coke was a tenth of a gram I believe and about the same with the PCP. The "T" stuff was only one hit. That one was more out of curiosity because we knew it was like acid but not like acid.

As far as how much was available, My friend had half of a lg. JIF peanut butter jar full of the purple microdots, about 3500 hits I think, and the liquid, well lets just say I was a distributer for about a year.

At that time I could get almost anything within 24 hours, Weed just about any amount that could fit in the trunk of a car within about 3 days.
I remember one time my neighbor who was a "distributor" called me over to his little camper and asked me to come in. He opened the fridge and took out a big plastic jar, the kind they have pickles and shit in at the deli, a couple gallons you know, and it was full of black beauties, (speed) pharmaceutical ones at that. He gave me a "sample" of about 30, then opened a cardboard box and dumped out 5 pounds of hash, broke off about a 1/2 ounce sample for me and said let him know if I knew anyone interested. The next day I let him know I had someone that wanted a couple of ounces of hash, and he said he was going out of town for the weekend and handed me a pound of and said just do what you can, all he wanted was like $75 an ounce anything over that was mine.
He was always really cool with me. Once I had no weed and only ten bucks so I knocked on his door, he lived right next door to me, and asked if I could get a dime bag. He says sure goes into his bedroom grabs a handful of some decent Columbian throws it into a bag and says "How's that look?" I'm like great, so he throws some more in there and takes my ten bucks. He gave 3/4 of an ounce of good weed that was going for $50 an ounce for $10.
Those were the days, wonder what ever happened to him anyway?
I'm rambling again aren't I?
So yes having extra back then was never a problem.

 

so if i bought some "US blues" that the guy said were 150 mics, they are probably at least 75...

and another inaccuracy when dealing with L, a "drop" isn't very precise. the drop size could differ quite a bit, so a 100 ug dose per drop could be between 75-125 ug maybe. and if you take 3 or 4 of those, that's just multiplying the error.
also, has it degraded?

i wish i could know the potency of my doses.
i wish weed was $50 an ounce too. i wouldn't even need a chill dude like that to give me a deal

 

I wish I knew, thats the problem, you are just left with taking someones word for it. Tell ya what next time you get some send a couple my way and I'll give you my official guesstimation

Actually a drop is a standard measure, a minim;

How many minim [US] in 1 ounce [US, liquid]? The answer is 480.


The droppers we used were calibrated 1/2 ounce pharmaceutical bottles and a drop allowed to form and fall on it's own was one minim.
That's how we would dose cubes and paper, squeeze and let it fall by itself, actually more consistent then it appears.

So do I porkstock, so do I.

 

$75 ten strip, and it's strong sheets for a few hundred

 

I usually pay somewhere in the range of $5-10 a hit, but have never payed over $10 a hit but I have never bought more than 20 hits at a time, if i was buying sheets I would expect it to be cheaper. But I definetely think the experience can be priceless and if need be I would pay $50 a hit, but I am so glad it has not come to that. I have heard of "T" before from a guy about your age PB Smith, me and a friend had some 2cT7 that we did in front of him and he kept telling us it was "T", I knew that it wasnt, he didnt understand that there are all kinds of new psychedelic chemicals out there. He told me this funny story about how he took some "T" and woke up in a mental hospital the next day, lol.

 

when i can get liquid its for 7.50 a hit. usually find tabs for about 10 each

 

The best acid is inexpensive acid cause thats how its supposed to be

 

70 for a 10 strip. probably like 75 mic. tho because i get a "buzz" and some slight visuals off 2 hits. I need to increase the dose to like 5 hits to trip bawls i think.

 

If you only get a buzz and slight visuals from 2 it's most likely 30-40ugs a hit if that much.

LSD is noticable at about 20-25ugs

150ugs you would definitley know it.

Sounds more like you got burned.