LSD respect

LSD has nothing to do with escaping reality. There is no way to escape reality. There is imagination, which is a mental process of rehashed "creation" that we perceive internally as being external, and then there is enhanced perception of physical (and spiritual for those who care) reality. Alcohol is not an escape from reality, it makes you feel better when you are down temporarily and it may either put negative thoughts of self loathing, anxiety, depression etc. out of the forefront of your mind, or it can be used to enhance social situations that would otherwise be left to judgemental, paranoid, and uncomfortable scrutinization between male and female, male and male, or female and female confrontations.

 

Imagination is escaping reality, until the imagination and reality meet...

 

i disagree... a lot of people use alcohol to escape reality or at the very least they use it to make life more tolerable.

drink enough of it and you will pass out. kinda like leaving reality - right?

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what a hot thread... anyways, im outa here for now., peace!

 

imagination is reality! ... try to figure that one out...

 

Ok, imagination is leaving reality?

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Passing out is escaping reality?

The imagination is a product of the mind. The mind is a product of the body. The body is a product of material nature. Somebody care to explain how it is possible to escape the confines of matieral nature? Because that alone would be escaping reality, most likely only to lead to another reality. I dont see how you two are claiming that to be false. Imagination is limited to our mind, the mind is a tangible, material, non-eternal thing. There is nothing confusing about that.

 

Ok sorry for including you in my post 3xi, I was under he impression that you were not comprehending this statement that you yourself just stated. I misunderstood your post! :tongue:

 

if you pass out and dont remember what happened then where was reality? if you cant remember - did it actually happen?

 

As long as someone is there to tell you afterwards, and as long as you wake up and continue life, then yes. If not, then sure, this question of yours would be very pertinet and I would be very interested in knowing the answer

 

i agree that you can never truly escape this reality, but people try and i think that they can suppress it in a way that seems like they have escaped.

 

Agreed

 

I'll definitely agree that plenty of artists are inspired by alcohol or psychedelics or stimulants or whatever else. That cannot even possibly be questioned. I definitely don't think they all have been, though. I mean, I won't really try to debate you on this since I already know I'll be getting in over my head trying to find out which artists did or did not take what, but I'll just state that it's my opinion that music doesn't HAVE to be about the drugs by any means, and that there most likely are plenty of artists around that don't need those substances for inspiration. My hypothesis is simply that the scene would still be around without alcohol or whatever else, albeit in probably much less popularity.

So yeah, you definitely have a point there. Alcohol has some uses, I'm sure . Ask yourself this, though: would alcohol inspired music be as worthwhile without alcoholics or alcohol consumers to listen to it? That's an interesting one to ponder, I think

 

But truly, what more is reality than our mind? The subjective reality of experience really is everything, and to say otherwise is a bit pompous, isn't it? I don't pretend to know that there really is an objective reality outside of my mind, I simply interact with my percieved reality in ways that I deem best for that reality. Somehow morals fit in with that, but I'm not entirely sure how. I'm a pretty nice person, so it's pretty odd to have that mindframe I suppose. Sounds like some good thinking material for my next trip!

 

Hey man, I have an open mind, I just don't understand why some folks who take LSD feel entitled to this sense of superiority, while some feel enlightened enough to feel no sense of superiority to their fellow man. So what if your parents were alcoholics and beat you or whatever, don't take it out on everyone else, it's just keeping the bad Karma flowing man, and however good it makes you feel to be a bully for a minute, you'll not convince anyone that you're all about the peace & love (as we should all be) by judging drunken happy folks and insulting their beer. Yes, insulting. Ok, according to Webster's dictionary, I've not misused the word: ' Insult: to treat with insolence, indignity, or contempt'

 

It seems that many people here have a different view as to what is "reality", and "escaping reality". To some people, sitting down and reading a good book is escaping reality. Are they really going into another realm? of course not, but you know that in their mind, they're very deep into another place in time. Why can't that be considered escaping reality?

 

My sentiments. I was just about to make a post with the same topic.

Dude's gotta stop blaming the medium, and lay the blame where it belongs; on the people. Don't blame alcohol for your parent's actions. Blame them, or better yet.. get over it.

Some day, they'll realize the error in their ways and no doubt feel quite foolish in being so bold, but, if I may be so bold, it seems as if it will be a long time coming.

 

Would it be worthwhile, surely not, we must all be as drunk as possible to fully absorb the music. Even if we're the ones driving everyone home.

 

lol! I said -as- worthwhile. I assume you were being sarcastic, anyways .

 

as worthwhile, no. Worthwhile, yes. Should governments legalize pot & acid while finding ways to make people like me drink less (by doing things like legalising pot & acid) Hell Yes!!!

 

why do you think that i think i am superior? i am further along then most and i feel good about knowing that that makes me better off in a lot of ways. never do i forget that i was once in their position.

if i learned that fire burns before you then i am better off am i not? and would it not be wrong of me to sit back and watch you burn yourself instead of giving you a heads up?

how you can think that me speaking my mind a certain subject is taking anything out on anyone is pathetic. i am far beyond that mentality my friend.

i am conscious and i am a very enlightened person who has much to show many people and i am fully aware that i am, at this point in time, better off then most people alive today. that does not make me any better then anyone else in the big picture. we will all eventually wind up in the same place at one point or another - it is just that i am ahead of many. this is not to say that i am not learning and growing myself and thus i look up to people who have some wisdom to pass on. - i dont mind when someone feels good about being right to show me where i am wrong. people like you are too proud to admit that you have people to look up to and respect.

when someone has a problem with me speaking my mind on a subject saying that i am coming off all high and mighty i laugh at their ignorance. it is their pride that is in the way of accepting me for being a person who has some wisdom to pass on.

it is just that i know what i am talking about because i am right and i know it. i am confident enough to show that i know i am right and that upsets people like you.

you can only insult a person who understands what it is that you said. you can not insult a rock or a burger - it is silly to think you could.

 

We could only hope for so much...