Magic Healing Crystals

Besides what you will read in the comments on the video, one thing off the top of my head is I want to know what material the small bags were made of. Crystals will not conduct energy properly through inorganic material.

 

I wonder if a placebo effect (assuming that's what's happening) would be more effective simply because you paid for it?

People tend to think anything free isn't as good as what you pay for.

Maybe just the fact you pay and get the crystal from someone who calls themself a healer makes it more effective.

Or maybe not.

 

For the sake of argument let’s say crystals contain energy, what type of energy?


I’m familiar with most forms of energy but I just don’t see how an inanimate object (naturally created) is capable of emitting healing energy, spiritual energy, ..............

I respect your beliefs but to me it just seems like new age mumbo jumbo.


Hotwater

 

Crystals can cut through extraordinary things. Who's to say the crystals aren't extraordinary themselves?

 

[SIZE=12pt]Crystallography is a fascinating science and yes diamond crystals can cut through pretty much anything, but to suggest they’re somehow imbued with the power to heal is a bit of a stretch[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Hotwater [/SIZE]

 

Atomic vibrations particular to the crystalline structure within a particular stone.

 

there's a rock quarry nearby and i notice spontaneous erections when i drive past it

would be strange to get a job there

 

Well, there you go Spiff! You are sensitive to crystal vibrations!

 

Oh I agree. But I'm open to learn more about it.

 

The vibrations of crystals are considered subtle energy. They can touch other subtle energy, like that of emotion. How do we measure the subtle energy created by laughter or heartbreak? I'm not sure there's been a method developed.

The healing that can be had from crystals is subtle. It works on the human emotional field.

For many, disease aka dis-ease, is believed to have it's origin in, or to be compounded by emotion.

We know what negative emotions and stress do to our bodies.

Maybe enough study hasn't been put into what power positive emotional flow might have on healing. There's no money for big pharma, or big medicine, in that.

 

Isn't that just the definition of the placebo effect put into different language? Big pharma and big medicine have to prove that their products have more of an effect than a similarly administered placebo, that's why they have to do double-blind studies etc.

We know that the placebo effect can do extraordinary things. For example, four sugar pills are more effective at getting rid of gastric ulcers than 2 (even though no sugar pills have any medicine in them), a saltwater injection is a more effective pain reliever than a sugar pill (again no medicinal effect) pacemakers start working after they've been implanted but before they are switched on. Even animals and small children with no understanding of medicine at all can experience the placebo effect simply by picking up on the expectations of those around them.

This is essentially the "effect a positive emotional flow has on healing", no?

It's people experiencing alleviated symptoms (in some cases, such as the gastric ulcers, physical symptoms being cured) simply through a positive change in their emotional state (the expectation that they will be healed).

The thing is, that's great and all, but as a society, we've more or less decided that for something to be be called "medicine" it has to prove that It's effects are more profound than those brought about by a change in emotional state. A good percentage of epidemiology is directly concerned with making sure that we account for the placebo effect so that we know that a medicine or treatment is actively working to improve someones health and that it isn't simply a placebo effect (or "a positive emotional flow" if you like to put it like that)

Most faith healing and new age remedies have not met this criteria, yet still snake-oil salesman make millions off of vulnerable people by claiming that positive effects, which can all be explained by placebo or active placebo effects are actually the result of the "energy" or "vibrations" of whatever substance or appropriated cultural object they happen to be touting.

Faith healers and new age medicine men. Lump 'em all together and tell 'em to get in the fucking sea, would be my advice

 

I'd agree, in that the placebo effect would also change the subtle energy in your body.

People have used the energy of what the Earth provided to care for themselves long before big pharma and big medicine.

 

Yeah, but then we used the scientific method to separate which folk remedies actually work and have active effects on ill health from the ones that rely entirely on faith and belief and have no active effect on the body. Then we decided it was immoral to sell as medicine to sick and vulnerable people substances that we could not prove had any effect on their body beyond placebo.

some people didn't get that morality memo, needless to say.

 

The thing is that crystal healing needs to be proven against the placebo effect and psychological priming through rigorous testing and double blind experiments with proper control groups and monitoring. Until then anyone selling them as legitimate medicine is a charlatan.

This is something that legitimately upsets me. People can bang on about horoscopes and how being a pisces means that 1/12th of the worlds population are really outgoing or love fish or whatever, that doesn't affect anybody. But Crystal healing is claimed to be able to cure:

HIV/AIDS, Alzheimers, Anorexia, Epilepsy, Cancer and multiple sclerosis

Imagine taking the money of someone with one of those conditions in return for a healing crystal with no proven efficacy. That's monstrous.

 

It is scientifically proven that crystals have a frequency they vibrate to.

It is fact that every cell in our bodies have vibratory frequency.

We've seen the effect that vibration has on water, or sand.

The human body is more than 60% water.

You can hear because of vibrational frequencies.

You can feel the vibrational frequency of loud noises.

Where's the hooey in any of that?

It's all science.

 

Crystals aren't very expensive at all when compared to medical procedures or pharmaceuticals. It's hardly monstrous.

A wise person will gather and use all available resources toward healing.

 

I'm not contesting any of those disconnected facts. I'm taking issue with people who draw conclusions from them and imply causal links between them with no evidence to back up such claims.

I don't want to get too sarcastic, but I've never seen a vibration curing sand of alzheimers.

There is no logical reason to assume that just because object A vibrates and object B vibrates object A is capable of curing a complex disease in object B. If i was object B and someone tried to sell me object A for a vastly inflated price based on such a claim, I would punch them in the face.

 

The act of ripping off a cancer patient is pretty despicable no matter what price you do it for.

Remember, this is not saying "this crystal will alleviate your suffering" or "this crystal will lessen the pain of your condition" both of which are potentially true statements (placebo effect)

This is saying "this will cure your cancer" a statement which has absolutely no basis in provable fact, which gives false hope to a terminal patient and may stop them form seeking other treatments and which causes them to give you money, based on misinformation, which might otherwise have gone on provably effective treatment.

 

There's a heck of a lot of cancer patients that wished their treatment would have worked, just saying. So while you spend the big bucks on treatment there's no guarantee it'll work and you'll come out fit and healthy.

I always just look to our ancestry and what worked in the past. It might be all shrouded in myth and legend, but there might be some truth behind it all too. Like I said, I'm skeptic, but I'm totally open to learning more about it. My interest might be peaking since one of my sisters currently creates crystals for eBay selling. I'll stick up for her.

 

Then you aren't having a conversation with me because I've been talking about the subtle energies of crystals, and the subtle energies of the emotional body, and what role that might play in healing.

I've never bought a crystal that came with any of the claims you refer to.