Meat

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Paul, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    You bumped the thread, so this means you are looking for comments?
     
  2. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    It isn't odd; it's just that people dislike being challenged or having to change their own behaviour.

    Nowadays, most decent people cringe when they hear racist comments; they make a stand against it and well, it's largely the default --- as such, it's easy to be non-racist; it's a non-action that doesn't require any real effort -- nowadays there isn't any chattel slavery in the west, promoting racism is banned, racist propaganda isn't everywhere we look, and therefore it's just about attitude.

    The majority of people who say they love animals are still complicit in their abuse because of the system they are locked into -- the advertising and propaganda is everywhere, abuse is often mandated and people think it's acceptable to treat some animals better than others when it comes to their own pleasure -- and they'll argue in favour of the abuse with all kinds of nonsense (plenty in this thread for example). I used to do the same myself.

    To be anti-animal abuse means a change of personal behaviour and stepping outside an accepted and even celebrated cultural norm -- and otherwise good people get all kinds of defensive when they get told their behaviour is immoral or asked to change.
     
  3. Paul

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    Yes, but not with the assumption I needed help; it's not like you don't know me, so it suggested you didn't read it properly.
     
  4. Candy Gal

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    We'll meat again. Don't know where, don't know when.
     
  5. Bilby

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    I never thought of animals having rights. Nature is an unscrupulous bastard. Is the life of a feral pig better than that of a free range domestic pig? I have seen plenty of feral pigs where I live. Not an ounce of fat on them.
     
  6. Vladimir Illich

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    No Candy darlin' - wrong spelling. Remember it was a war-time song and rationing was in force so its 'WHALE' .....
     
  7. Captain Scarlet

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    I am vegetarian and been so for some 5 years but occasionally do flex for example at dinner parties and consume white meat just occasionally. I was just asking a question directed at Nooka who is also a fellow vegetarian . I have to take B12 supplements .
     
  8. Vladimir Illich

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    That's the down side of being a vegetarian - your body lacks Vitimin B.12 which is found in meats.
     
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  9. Captain Scarlet

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    Your not wrong mate and that was what I was asking Nooka as to what she uses ?

    Then I got a lecture

    Its also found in Cask Ale as well but I am trying to cut down my consumption rather than increase it .
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

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    Errgghh yuk !!! - Wine and spirits to wash down a decent roast beef sunday lunch !!!
     
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  11. NookaTheNook

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    I do use milk , that has it, I’ve never taken supplements.
     
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  12. Bilby

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    A commonly held fallacy is the UK is self -sufficient in producing food. This no where near the case. This is a fact that many people cannot accept.A few decades ago I had a friend who once worked in Southampton docks. His job was to stamp legs of New Zealand lamb with WELSH LAMB.
     
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  13. Candy Gal

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    I know that is true.
    Also I have seen lorries with lambs sent to France, graze for a week, then sold as French Lamb.
     
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  14. Captain Scarlet

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    I will tell you a couple of stories about meat . I hope I dont put anyone off :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    My previous GF the one before I met my wife to be ,had a father who worked in the local CID ( police detective ) .

    He was asked to investigate a Curry House in the adjacent town as there was some reason to believe something meaty was going on .

    They took a few samples of their curries ( not for consumption :eek:) and had them analysed in a police laboratory . They found that the meat samples were confirmed as being dog . This is illegal in the UK and the Curry house was shut down by order of the courts .


    The second story the only one that I can possible place here . The others involving abattoirs are not fit for placing here as they are horrific .

    This involves my father in law who was a meat inspector and on a sample check of a gammon joint ,he carved a slice . He found a tapeworm running its entire length . Obviously it was dead due to the gammon process but still yuk.

    I do blame my father in law for me becoming vegetarian :)
     

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