Medical Studies Prove The Extensive Damage LSD Does To The Body & Mind

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by PB_Smith, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    I think this is what you were looking for. Read down the page a bit. Very interesting, thanks! :D

    http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/LSD/krippner.htm

    P. G. Stafford and B. H. Golightly (1967, pp. 140-41) have cited the account of a student who utilized the recollective-analytic level to practical advantages learning enough German in a week to enroll for an advanced course in the subject:
    I hadn't even gotten around to picking up a textbook, but I did have a close friend who knew German well and who said he was willing to "sit in" while I took the drug and try to teach me the language....
    The thing that impressed me at first was the delicacy of the language. ... Before long, I was catching on even to the umlauts. Things were speeding up like mad, and there were floods of associations. ... Memory, of course, is a matter of association and boy was I ever linking up to things! I had no difficulty recalling words he had given me-in fact, I was eager to string them together. In a couple of hours after that, I was even reading some simple German, and it all made sense.

    By the time the student finished the LSD session, he had "fallen in love with German." He secured the original German text and an English translation of Mann's Doctor Faustus. By the time he had finished the novel, he found that he was scarcely referring to the English version. He also discovered that in having read Doctor Faustus, he had developed a feeling for grammar structure and word endings that was "almost intuitive."
    When he registered for the second-year college course in German the following week, the instructor expressed skepticism when he heard that the student was self-taught. Upon testing him, however, it was evident that the student's German reading comprehension was more than adequate, and he was allowed to enroll for the course.
     
  2. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    That is very well written ,interesting material.I could relate to it in its' entirety.
     
  3. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Thanks HK. Don't know how I missed that one, I looked at most of the papers on that site, though admittedly I was focusing on mainly the ones relating to physical harm and alcoholism.
    I will have to add this one to the positive uses of LSD in the debate,
    or you could always post a comment in the debate and link to this study if you feel inclined to join the fray.
    :cheers2:
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well, Mr. Licino has begun to post comments in this debate. He has still to post anything refuting the research, but his responses to people who are in opposition is friggin' priceless. My wife and I have been laughing all morning.
     
  5. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    Sure looks like he's on the ropes PB, I wonder what kind of "doctors research" he's waiting on.
     
  6. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Yes, I am very curious as well.
    One of my favorite comments by LivingExample in support of me is this;

    "I believe you, sir, are afraid of defeat. PB_Smith handed you the most polite ass-whooping I've seen in my days."

    I just wish this guy would get on with it and post all his research to refute my position.
    Gonna be hard though, it doesn't exist.
     
  7. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    damn, people that dense are kind of rare... you'd think he's read what he has written...but he dosent seem to realize how ridiculous he's being.
     
  8. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well I guess this little debate has really taken off. There are now well over 100 comments pending Mr. Licino's approval. Bad omen is that he has killed 3comments I have posted today after the initial flurry of activity this morning.
    But hey I now have 4 hubpage fans, and have received 6 emails praising the work. :D (yes I'm gloating)
    Concensus is beginning to be that he will find some excuse to kill the whole thing.
    But I have a complete copy of it saved for just such an emergency and I will put out my own hub page relating the results and comments.

    I will be surprised if he posts all the comments pending.
     
  9. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well Hal saw fit to post some more comments and even mine that it appeared he wouldn't.
    Interesting thing is that even people who have supported him in the past, are anti-drug, or no nothing at all about it are siding with me.
    The comments still seem to be averaging about 20-25 an hour, lets see if he continues to post them.
     
  10. spiralout23

    spiralout23 Member

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    Man this guy is a complete idiot, his remarks about LSD users just further that statement. What a dick.
     
  11. baloon

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    ummmmm the link doesnt work, I was getting curious there
     
  12. puffed up in my ford

    puffed up in my ford Senior Member

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    ok i didnt read this whole thread but if noone told you this little trick here it is.clear all your cookies and temp internet files then reset your modem or router.you will get a new unbanned IP address.i have one forum where i go just to cause trouble and get banned.they gave up on banning me cuz id be right back to posting within 5 minutes :D
     
  13. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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  14. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    so whats the deal with this hal gal. You think hes just a troll or nervous that he was wrong and made an ass out of himself in his hub thingy.
     
  15. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    he knows he was annihalated. now he just wants everyone to think he meant to get so much attention for being a douche all along. as if traffic to his hub was what it was originally about.
     
  16. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Just posted this at reddit. I guess the debate has come to an end..

    Well good folks at reddit, Hal has trumped me. He pulled up a comment I posted to one of his other hubs in which I called him a couple of names, shame on me. Based on this he thereby feels that I am now, well Hal says it best;

    "PB. I take back any words of respect I ever paid you. You're just another stoner moron without any brain cells left. You're just as right about AT&T as you are about LSD and I am going to truly relish showing you up for the nincompoop junkie you are. Enjoy the next few days of fun, as after I present my doctor-vetted evidence you'll have to change your screen name... because you'll be hooted out of any forum you frequent.
    Including this one. Go write your own Hub. I don't have time to entertain bozos like you. Comments are closed. I'll post a Hub with my evidence when I complete my conversation with the doctor and feel like it. Not before. Not that I even have to now that PB has shown to be such an utter imbecile.

    How embarrassing. If I were you I'd emigrate. I hear Mars doesn't have broadband yet. Maybe you can hide there."

    So there you have it folks, I have been defeated.

    HAHHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This guy is absolutely priceless. What's more he posted a link to his hub about ATT and a link to ATT that once again proves what I said in my comment!!!!! AHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!

    Please somebody kill it before it reproduces!!


    Here is what I e-mailed him in response;

    Hal, I posted that 2 months ago and I dont see anywhere that the rates are 1.5 cents per kb.
    Anyway at least post the comments that are pending for this hub before shutting it down. Also one thing you have failed to comprehend is that these are NOT my claims!!!!!!
    All I did was do an honest evaluation of the studies YOU provided. If you think that this latest comment of yours discredits me in this debate then you are the one who is delusional. You can say whatever you like about me personaly, it still doesn't change the FACTS of the RESEARCH.

    PB Smith
     
  17. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    My pal Hal posted one final remark aimed at me so I sent him my parting shot;

    FINAL WORD TO HAL
    I posted this, though it will most likely never see the light of day on his hub and e-mailed it to him as well:

    You know Hal my pal, you most likely won't post this, but I'll go for it anyway.
    You are the one that got played my oblivious hubber buddy. I knew all the research facts concerning LSD long before I ever even knew you existed. After looking through some of your hubs I knew exactly the type of petty, insecure, opinionated, idiot you are. You are the type that thinks just because you shout louder you have won the argument.
    Just the fact that you had to dredge up a comment I made 2 months ago to an unrelated hub, just to try to discredit me shows how desperate you were for a way out of this. It's even more laughable considering the barrage of childish insults you hurl at anyone who disagrees with you that you believe my comments will discredit me. Then you link to the ATT site which just vindicates my comment you meant to discredit me with; "Data usage pay-per-use rate is $.0195/KB, except in Canada where rate is $.015/KB."
    You have been shown to lie and alter the facts to suit your agenda, you don't even have the first clue of how to analyze research results let alone how to construct and carry out an experiment. (your data transmission experiment is a joke) You just kept on with the insults, digging yourself deeper and deeper.
    You see Hal my good buddy, your reputation is severely crippled, it may not show overnight, but it will stick in peoples minds and you will NEVER AGAIN be viewed the same way on hubpages. You did this to yourself but you are too ignorant and convinced of your superiority to see it.
    All I had to do was provide the research I already knew existed or more accurately present honestly the research YOU provided, and maintain a cool and adult demeanor. I knew you would not be able to refute ANYTHING I presented and I counted on you reverting to your usual way of dealing with someone with whom you don't agree.
    You have been completely discredited. I have an archive of this entire exchange as do others so it will ALWAYS be out there somewhere. I think you may be the one who needs to change his name.
    What do you estimate the number of people who saw this to be? If it received over 300 comments, than you know a lot more people saw it.

    You just assumed me to be some dumbshit, uneducated stoner loser as you like to say. I'm sure you were surprised and shit yourself when I actually took up the challenge to debate this topic. You figured I would see the abstracts and be intimidated and run away. Well for your information I had already read most all of those studies long ago, long before you did, I doubt you have even read any of it still. Psychobiology was my main course of study in college. Didn't figure that now did you.
    You know you could have saved yourself and actually gained a good bit of respect if you had conceded that I know the subject matter infinitely better than you. No you chose to make yourself look like a complete idiot in view of the world. I bet it really burns your biscuit that out of all those comments NONE were in support of you. Where were all your usual gang of fans that always tell you how great your hub is and what a nice job you did? My guess is a lot of them came, read it and split so as not to be associated with you in this context. I am done with you you pathetic worm.

    As far as complaining in the forums I emailed Jason all the comments in which you told me my IP had been banned. He and Paul both told that was not the case and have no idea where you got that idea or why you would say what you did.

    Enjoy the holidays.
    Sincerly,
    PB Smith
     
  18. OrG

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    Wow PB, you totally demolished him. it's good to see people very well educated on the subject.

    Hal on the other hand acted very childish, immature, and tried to belittle everyone who bothered to post against him. Good job on humiliating him as well as making him run away saying he'll eventually post the "doctors" supposed accurate information, when you clearly showed solid-proof facts, with links provided.
     
  19. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Thanks, unfortunately he seems to have decided to not post any more comments and went scurrying back into his hole. I guess in his mind it's a win.:confused:
     
  20. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    "the" doctor? One doctor? no second or third opinion? :eek:
     

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