Men: If you earn less than your woman

Meh. In your OP, you use use femine terms as an insult. You seem to measure your own masculinity by your ability to have wealth (ie: self-worth), because if you can't make more money than a girl you "might as well put on a dress". Then you routinely talk about your fortune, your armed compound, and try to dangle money in front of people. You talk about your ability to terrorize employees.

Honestly, it sounds to me like you are insecure and trying to assert your own value. You sound at least moderately sexist as well. If that isn't the case, you might want to work on your delivery (and I get that you are trying to be provocative).

At any rate, I am glad you are past your depression period and wish you the best.

 

I am not going to pretend I am something else other than what I am. I do admit a good deal of my posts are meant to be inflammatory.

I have never posted cars or mansions on here. In my picasa photo gallery there is one set of photos of my mansion in the USA. But again I have not ever posted the direct link to the mansion photos or even mentioned them until this post.

The only part of my life I openly share is my Rainforest world. That is becase I think it is important to protect and share with others.

The employee thing was a joke. I suppose you would have to know me to understand. Kind of like most of my humor.

I really do respect women. Anyone that knows me understand that.

I am not going to apologize for being wealthy. I worked hard and sacrificed to get where I am.

Unless I am talking about business, plants or feelings it is likely that a good deal of my posts are my warped sense of humor.

I wish you the best too.

 

And why exactly do you want to inflame people?

 

Perhaps because some people are more forthcoming when outside their emotional comfort zone.

 

I actually think it is healthy to challenge the norm. I feel it is good for people hear about view that are different.

Part of it goes into my philosophy of detachment from emotions.

It is also to keep myself sharp at test my own emotional detachment at the responses. Sometimes that is a real challenge and I find myself reacting emotionally when it is silly to really care what other people think.

Seems I am not as perfect as I think I am.

It also helps me learn where people are, I learn things.

Also sometimes it is a little slow around here and I like to liven things up.

If I post an everyday type of post I might get 5 replies. If I post on the edge I can get hundreds of replies.

It really helps me find where others are at.

 

True....

A thought: wouldn't income comparisons be an outcome that people need to detach themselves from?

 

A more revealing question is why do you want to help?

There is no need for a physician unless someone is sick.

 

THIS IS SO TRUE!

i learn a hell of a lot outta people when i upset them or outright piss them off. i'm better now at getting to know them without infuriating them, but my old habits were extremely effective.

anyway, i'm a stay at home mom. what many people don't realize is that it DOES in fact make some people crazy. it's not heavy lifting or physically difficult or challenging to my intelligence, it's just plain maddening. therefore i don't feel at all guilty about not making any money. i've given up my mind completely to a higher cause.

even dave is on board that i need vacations now.

 

Everything happens on the edge.

 

Of course but I think it also works the other way too.

What I think about men earning more should not trigger an emotional response from others.

I can only speak for myself as far as the man being the provider. Really what other people think or do is none of my business or concern.

You know my posting style.

 

I would have to go into my spiritual philosophy to answer that question. That would be way off topic. Plus it would fill my pm box up.

But healthy people sometimes need help

 

Yeah... well the compliment to your sig quote is obsess with the outcomes and they own you.

As far as the question.. having been single I can only speculate as I'm the only income of my household... as much because my independent streak borders on obstructive... but that's quite another story. Having been deeply programmed with the notion of being "breadwinner" I fully understand the sentiment expressed in the OP.

It's very tough to undo such thinking... nearly impossible.

 

I'll give you my version then.

The help that you give is your help. As you give help it is apparent that you have help to give.

Money is not worth anything unless it is spent or invested.

 

I had the same programing and it was actually the undoing of a marriage as I was accused of caring only for work.

 

So many cues culturally, in the media... that serve to reinforce people's tendency to define self by what they have... often in comparison to another person. UA seems to be playing on that here. There's usually some difference between what we say about our priorities and what we actually think. That was borne out when followers of the original so-called "hippie movement" became sellouts. In reality they likely always valued money... they just got caught up in what their friends were doing.... the slogans they said and wore and the drugs they took.

This consumerist cult of a culture forces some degree of self valuation measured by the dollar to some degree with most. The problem is that it becomes tough to keep that in perspective... I doubt I've really nailed that down myself.

 

i guess i'll just take my barefoot self back to the sink and wash some dishes, then.

 

"Barefoot" is only half the equation, woman! lol

 

we both got fixed to nullify that equation. dave likes his drinkin' buddy.

 

Culture as it is now conceived, is nothing short of a captive breeding program.

 

mamakcita:

Here is the truth. I do not want a servant or a slave.

I want a business partner, an equal. Yes that does mean she will have to make sacrifices.

Living in my world will mean big changes. I want someone with big goals and a purpose in life.

No, there is no room in my life for someone that is set in their ways.

But no one is forced to be with me.

I run several businesses and with that are major responsibilities.

I need an person that I can trust.