I don'r believe so. And if Farenheit 9/11 contains anything that is new news to anybody, chances are you're probably too dumb to have an opinion on the matter. As for Bush being behind the 9/11 attacks, it's bullshit. It's about as likely as Elvis and Tupac being alive and living it up on an island in the Carribean right now.
I don't think Elvis and Tupac are in the Carribean. Wrong time of the year. Chances are they're in an isolated fishing camp either in Alaska or Northern Canada.
I find Moore absolutely insufferable. He is sort of the left's version of Rush Limbaugh. Both of them are arrogant, smug, lack respect for anyone who disagrees with them, lack anything beyond the most simplistic grasp of public policy issues, and lack integrity. The two of them work in a different medium but their basic technique is similar, appealing to the basest and most partisan instincts of true believers of their respective sides with overblown, distorted, and often mean spirited rhetoric. My left wing entertainer/political comentator of choice is Al Franken, who for my money is much more entertaining than Moore and has forgotten more about real policy issues than Moore will ever know. And while Al may not always be compeltely objective, he is basically fair minded and a man of integrity.
Once again, one's personal opinion of the man has no bearing on the validity of the issues he raises to the fore of the public debate. Issues this current administration has spent years trying to ignore or counter with just this sort of character asassination whenever they cannot spin their way out with further lies.
Eh, I realize Moore can be full of it, but I don't regard him as being devoid of merit. Like Lickherish said, he has the clout to bring attention to issues that our current administration would like to keep on the downlow. I like Al Franken better as well, I saw him when he gave a stand-up routine/lecture at my college a while ago. I particularly love how he rips stooges like O'Reilly to shreds.
(smiling) Then what the hell...if you're still interested and have the time and money, see the film and decide for yourself. Write back with your opinions.
george bush is EXPLOITING christianity. just like he is exploiting terrorism....not that i think he was involved im 9-11, just that he has exploited it so that he and his cronies can work their will on the world in order to make it more profitable to those he serves....and as l;ong as people keep falling for his shit he will continue to do so.....an example of how he expoits religion, we are in the eyes of many muslims in the middle of a holy war, right...what does bush do, gets up and prays in front of a camera and claims he is working god's will......what kind of a dumbass would make those kind of claims on tv when 90 pecent of the muslim world thinks he is leading a holy war???? the kind that feels that if he can get the christian majprity on his side, will have no problem winning re-election, and from your statement and alot of christians i know personally his methods are working.....
Alot of Christian right clearly care more about preserving their single issue ideological bent than confronting the very real and very repeated examples of outright fraud, corruption (corporate cronyism in the White House), and abuse of power by this admin. All their adherence to biblical injunctions against lying, cheating and self righteousness go out the window when they are duly led down the primrose path of government spin which stuffs every complex issue in the most oversimplified black and white, good vs. evil mold. Sadly, the Christian Right regularly proves itself more "Right" than "Christian", and most certainly amongst the electoral groups most easily misinformed.
in a nut shell, they are falling for the shit that is spewed by the current administration, regardless of what happens to the rest of the world so long as it agrees with their idealogical belief of how a society should be governed
Well, his character does indeed have very much to do with the validity of the issues he raises. While I totally loathe Moore and find him to be incredibly pompous and self-serving, I do appreciate the fact that his movies at least help some people to question and think about what the media doesn't normally present. I plan on seeing his new movie and I think everyone should see it. I just hope people will use their own logic and intellect to determine what they want to believe and what they don't want to believe, rather than take everything Moore presents as gospel. You can't deny, though, that the way Moore conducts himelf often prevents him from being taken seriously by a larger audience. This also damages whatever "message" Moore is trying to send. Anyone who takes everything Moore says and presents as fact is really no different from someone who listens to and believes everything Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity say. Like a person above said, Michael Moore is really no different from Rush Limbaugh, except politically. For one, both are disgustingly obese (though I think Moore takes the cake - no pun intended - by a couple hundred pounds). And, they are both very arrogant and biased people. Anyone with at least some intelligence - and that has done at least some research beyond what Moore presents as "truth" - knows that a so-called "documentary" like Bowling for Columbine is about 75% bullshit and 25% truth. Few documentaries rely on extreme editing the way Moore does in his crockumentaries. If Moore would spend less energy on sensationalism, and more energy on the unadulterated truth, more people would respect him and his message would get across to far more people. But being as obviously partisan as he is, a lot of people simply brush off what he presents as propaganda. In some ways, I don't really think Fahrenheit 9/11 is going to change many people's minds about anything, or convert anyone. Chances are that the people who go into the movie hating Bush will come out hating Bush, and the people who hate Moore, and find him to be nothing more than a propagandist, will come out hating Moore and thinking he's nothing more than a propagandist. It seems pretty clear at this point that mostly everything covered within the documentary are things which most educated people (be them liberal or conservative) already know about. I mean, c'mon, anyone who hasn't been living under a rock knows the Bush/bin Laden connection. Is that supposed to be a surprise or something?
Rat, you always give us your opinion, which is fine...but when you start bringing up numbers, theories, etc...where are your facts?
And here is MM's rebuttal to "Bowlingfortruth" and similar sites... http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/
of course not, but it is well documented that bush sr. and jr. both finaced al-quida before 9/11. sr. through the cia jr. through his oil ventures
We'll never find any reliable proof of administration involvement because there certainly wont be any legitimate public investigation of the long list of actual incocnsistencies surrounding the official version of events that day. What we have had so far and currently is a good PR exercise with limited investigative mandate aimed at dispersing the blame on "institutional" or structural matters rather than on truly delving into the records of calls made prior to the date, who was behind the massive wall street stock sell off just prior to the day, etc... It would take another Woodward and Bernstein and a solid inside contact like "deep throat" to provide the documentary evidence of what sorts of plannings were going on behind closed doors before we'd have any chance of overturning the repeatedly televised coverstory.
