The only greed present right now is people wanting to "TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THE RICH"---That is greed, taking somthing that is not yours. Bullshit. If people with higher incomes are going to be taxed to death just becasue they have money, what is going to be the incentive to make it when it's just taken away and fed to the ever-growing monster we call the federal government? I love this philosophy: Money is not what matters you greedy rich bastard, so give me yours! More Bullshit.
There wouldn't be a need to over tax the rich if the working poor were given more fucking money in the first place! The greedy bastards squeeze every bit of profit out at the expense of those who sweat for them. Then they bitch at having to pay taxes to pay for programs that help the very people who need those programs because they aren't paid enough to afford health care or good schools. And- too much of the tax money goes to corperate welfare to "aid in job creation". I say, America has too many golf courses and country clubs for a nation that can't provide fair health care for the people who build and work in them!
that story sounds like complete bullshit to me. i've seen people without any health insurance or money at all be put into the icu fully funded for months at a time and never have to fork over a penny. it's called medicaid. also, i never had my parents to fork over cash for me. i made it on my own after i ran for the hills. i broke my foot in 4 places and stayed away fromt eh hospital because i thought i couldn't get care. it's a crock of shit. i was finally so sick with fever that my friend drove me there. they fixed my foot up, without insurance, signed me up for medicaid, and for the remainder they gave me ayear to pay it off since the bill wasn't that high. i also got lortabs for the pain. so don't tell me she couldn't get care.
tell that to her, kc... im just tellin what she told me and what i saw... she was kinda crazy... she went on and on about the trials of her life... Not making it up tho, thats for sure. we were thinking about sending her to the hospital that night anyway
well, you shoulda. she would definitely have recieved care, though instead of vicadin, she woulda got ibuprofen. don't let your friends get into such a self-pity spiral that they deny themselves help when they need it. i've witnessed so many people receiving free care that i have a hard time hearing anyone with such a small problem saying they can't get care.
KC- that's true. But, only if you qualify for medicad. Many people (including myself at one time), earn too little for health insurance but too much to qualify for medicad. Often people have to sacrafice living in a safe neighborhood in exchange for paying for health insurance, thus also giving up having a good school for their kids. I understand the right wing view of things. I grew up in a politically active republican family. Yes, there are too many people looking for hand outs and ways to get something without working for it. Too many democrat office holders cater to them to get votes. I know. But in the end, those at the bottom of the food chain, who do want to work for what they have aren't getting their fair share in our present system. As a small business owner in a very low wage area of the country, I refuse to pay anyone less than $7.25 an hour. All the other stores in the mall I'm in start at $6. They are all owned by big corps. If all the employers in my area, sacrifice some of their profit to pay their employees a decent wage, I would actually make more money, and would be able to raise my employees pay even more. That trickle down regan-omics is BS. The supply side theory leads to extreme class seperation. Setting fair rules of minimum standards of living for workers, and keeping those standards up with inflation is the only way to protect society from poverty, and excessive crime and even violent revolt. Just to get back on subject.
PS- Hospitals don't turn you away in an emergency situation just cause you can't pay, medicad or not. You're right about that.
Show me where taxing the Rich helps the world out? So are you saying it'sok to persecute a minority (the rich) for the "greater good"?
Country clubs and golf courses are PRIVATE entities, for the most part. If I want to build a golf course and charge rich people a ton of money to go there, then it's my right to. Generally, healthcare is a right IF you pay for the service, period.
My problem is with giving the majority of the tax cuts to the rich when the gov't is spending more money than ever. Don't cut anyone's taxes if we are going to do this much spending...and if you are, give it to those who need the money the most, not the ones that already have the most money. And let me state again....our tax dollars don't go into the pockets of the lower classes, so no one is saying, "give me your money."
Jozak- I understand that. I own my own business. I sell to wealthy people too. The simple point I'm making is, the rich in nature will always exploit the working class. They will always try to get away with getting the most work out of people and pay them as little as possible. Over the past 40 years in the US with the weakening of union powers from things like here in Florida the "right to work laws", the minimum wages not keeping pace with inflation, and lax illegal imagrant workers inforcement, the gap between the upper and lower middle classes have widened greatly. In history, when the gap got too big the lower classes would rise up and destroy the upper class in revolution. What is needed is a way to keep the natural system of free enterprise and yet retain enough balance to prevent the ones at the bottom from excessive exploitation. Communism, is a failed attempt at creating a balance. Many right wingers call communism "evil", but in reality it was a foul by product of the excesses of the wealthy exploiting the workers. Now, taxing the rich to pay for things the working class can't afford, again leads to abuse. Tax money going to other countries as "aid" so that they will give contracts and tax breaks to American companies to do business there, in stead of in our own country. I say, minimum pay and work and enviromental condition standards are the key. I don't mind buying products from other countries if they have the same standards. I'm not about bringing down the rich, I want to be one of them. But not at the expense of some worker not being able to provide the basics for his kid while mine is spoiled. I sell furniture. My store is in a mall. I get customers of all income levels, and I see their job and income info on my credit applications. What many of these people are paid is a crime. When I say there are too many golf courses, I don't mean banning golf courses. I mean if more of those rich bastards paid their employees fairly, they may not be able to afford to go golfing every other day, thus, naturally there'd be less golf courses. If all workers have at LEAST a fair base living wage income with good health care and education for their kids, then hell, I don't care how many country clubs, golf courses, face lifts, and international vacations the rich get.
