Misinterpretation?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Plant_Head, May 23, 2010.

  1. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i just wanted to say that i'm with PB - in the sense that i would be interested if thedope wrote out a bit longer replies. i'm usually left scratching my head, but i'm not sure a longer reply would help - but i still would appreciate it if you did. then i could at least decide if i thought you were too quiet, or if i wish you'd shut up :)

    to the OP, i had a hard time understanding the question. what is the need that is being met?
    because of my own behavior, i can help but read it that someone is getting high too much, because they are uncomfortable in their own sober skin. i don't really feel like that is the case, but that message has been resonating through this whole thread...
     
  2. DiscFour

    DiscFour Member

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    I just prepare myself for anxiety and paranoia in a trip. I know it's coming, I know when it gets there, I know what it is, how irrational it is, that it will pass and I just gotta cut through it and calm down. Can't say I've ever had a bad trip (though I've only had 15-20 at this point.) Just gotta be okay with not being okay.

    I also know what _not_ to do and what I would like to do on a trip.
    Crowded places: Ick. I have zero ability to understand people who aren't tripping with me, like they're from a different universe.
    Concrete: Ick.
    Water and Tress: Thumbs up!
    Children's Television shows, Documentaries and Science Shows: Thumbs up!
    Drama and Horror: Eep!
    Staring at stereotypically trippy shit: Kinda boring!
    Parents: Holy shit.
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks for the interest. I've found your posts to be nothing but reasonable and apparently honest. I have no particular scores to settle so most of the time I really can't see where I could improve on the ambient vibrations. I tend to respond to questions. Right now I am endeavoring to increase the word count of this response, with out at the same time, just filling up space with superfluous verbalisms. I don't know how detailed an answer you might find more fulfilling, but I hope to be at this point close to passing the audition?
     
  4. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Totally man. And why not encourage finding what is already there? Surprisingly, many people in this day and age seem not able to do so without lsd.




    Oh and the way you can stroke a wave of psychedelia with thought can be extremely artistic and beautiful, and of course it IS an art if you make it so.
     
  5. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    :iagree:
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  6. DiscFour

    DiscFour Member

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    I don't think many people really understand the complexity of the conscious experience and they don't believe there's anything worth exploring. Our culture has been focusing less on the importance of the subjective and focusing on obtaining as many things as possible.

    LSD has the guise of being a 'really cool fun thing to do!' but then you're shown all these neat things that you want to understand about yourself.
     
  7. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    bark at the moon
     
  8. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    The Dope. You should really try saying what you mean instead of having us not get it, then explaining it dissimilar to the general meaning of your original words. Thought, articulated thought? Thought is generally thought as articulated thought. I at least, have never heard thought related to conscious sense. To you thought is also a spark across synapses. Then thought is the sense and feeling of even the breeze upon your face or vision of nature............

    A kitten laying on its back in the sun is thought...
     
  9. Plant_Head

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    I'm glad you found a point for yourself to hang on to in this thread, PB.

    It really helped a lot in me trying to understand the behavior I'm wondering about.
     
  10. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Glad to be of service:D
     
  11. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    You sure know it. I don't mean you're an example of that behavior but instead that you have not helped me to understand at all. Innstead I realize that one must present their inquiries in proper sentence and thesis compositional structure and with respectful, non comedic words, to have someone who has nothing to contribute say nothing at all.
     
  12. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Fear. Thats where this all stems from. Many are afraid of change, they think they can hold on to these "things" and work them out. This does not really work, one must let go.
     
  13. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    :coffee: :biggrinjester:
     
  14. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Actually I did respond with what I thought you were getting at. But rather than address what I said and correct my misinterpretion of your intent, you instead chose to lash out at those who disagreed with you and made grammar school insults to me and others.

    You then made this summary remark;
    to which I responded;

    Which is very true. What you stated in the preceding is just the normal ebb and flow of emotional responses to life's ups and downs.
    Nothing really earth-shattering or monumental there.

    Maybe the reason I didn't give any meaningful input initially was because your original post really was rather rambling with no real direction. Just look at the many different responses you got to that first post. Nobody really had a clear idea what you were trying to communicate and yet because I questioned your intent you choose to single me out for what you think is ridicule?

    As I said before, grow up.
     
  15. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    You first, you're more than twice my age.

    The essence of the thread being...

    Plant_Head:
    Do you notice negative effects of LSD on others?

    A sort of easier discomfort these people are found in, where boredom is an option, and that there is no comfort unless there is constant meeting of urges of need.

    Why is it harder for some people....? Why do they insist on the continuation of it?

    And the simple and most worthwhile contributions of ideas were put forth...

    Spexx: "Some are infatuated by the puzzles they are able to dream up."

    pr0ne420: "Fear. Thats where this all stems from. Many are afraid of change, they think they can hold on to these "things" and work them out. This does not really work, one must let go. "
     
  16. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes.
     
  17. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Sounds like the whole human race. I made the comment that at one point the dialogue in my head became answers instead of questions. What I mean is, I no longer have questions like, does she love me or does she not. I no longer have questions about right and wrong or what am I going to do today. No choice of occupation to attend to. I have only one choice, it is mine.

    As John Lennon said, I know she loves me, all I gotta worry about is standing up. I see the punch line, our lives a continual string of sensations, some of which we call pleasant and some not so. I have found nothing more profound than this in the experience of metabolism. For me the world is not valuable for what it has to offer.
     
  18. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    I think it is the human race, but perhaps a mountain is tougher to climb if you are trying hard to throw away some possessions.

    I think so many people see the problem and feel it in their minds and they set out to calm their anxieties in the same circular thinking of good or ill. They want it not but although the effect of the trap is strong, they are not aware of how the trap arises.
     
  19. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    hmmmmmm how so?
     
  20. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    Or rather how the trap is perpetuated?

    Well, many of us, most likely all of us at some point. Try to remove the negative aspects of everything by evaluating everything for that implication in their minds. That itself, is the negative cycle. Trying to escape or avoid everything that may challenge us. Instead of challenging the desire to challenge challenges in a game of hide and go seek.
     

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