most visual chemical

but you must not dose too high for the first time (14-16mgs is enough!)

 

Pfft seen first timers dose like 8-10 mg's and be so fried that they can't handle it.

 

ya some ppl do 10 mg and trip hard while i have known newbies doing 25 vmg of 2ce and getting only a body high and no visuals.
every chemical effects people differently

 

25 mg's for a first timer? You talking about a good tested batch? I would think about throwing that out lol for fear of impurities. But I've heard the same thing from a few different people, just that everyone I see their first time trips mad hard from a small dose.

 

But if you dose too low, you might get lots of thoughts, running very fast but no visuals at all. I won´t recommend to dose below 10mgs.

 

A combo of 2C-T-21 6 to 7mg's and 30 mg's 2C-C create a very positive and a rainbow-like colorful experience!

Swim said; "The best time with that combo was when I took the 2C-T-21 first (prob 6-7mg 2C-T-21 was all it took). , and waited an hour or two (don't remember exactly) and then took 30mg 2C-C Those two chemicals seem to go so well with each other I rarely have taken them separate after that."

 

Interesting idea, but unfortunately I currently lack a resource for 2C-T-21...

 

SWIM has found that 2c-c (being as gentle as it is on both mind and body) mixes very well with alot of other phens and adds extra depth to the visuals. SWIM recently took 14mg 2c-i with 20mg 2c-c and she said that the experience was far better than either one on its own and that visuals were comparable to 20mg of 2c-e (which for me has been the most visual chem.)

 

2ce and E go great together!

 

I agree, great visuals from that combo, but you should either be very experienced to do this or dose very low.
And remember: most if the (lethal) drug incidents during the last years were caused by combos of E and 2C-Xs.

 

Yea that is a good'n.

 

30 mg of 4-Acetoxy-MiPT gives me ridiculously strong closed eyed visuals, and also strong open eyed visuals.

 

do you have a link to this? im genuinly surprised. I was under the impression the 2cs and MDs were pretty safe. I had only heard of deaths on AMTs and 2C-T-Xs