My 5-meO-DMT looks odd

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  1. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    Google "The Machine" "DMT pipe" or make a crack pipe.
     
  2. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    will attempt to construct the machine today. if unable, what is the second best alternative: large, bendy glass bong, small metal pipe, or lightbulb?
     
  3. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    A lightbulb. But a crack pipe would be better than that. Not a can, though.
     
  4. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    ok, i somewhat successfully created the machine from a 50ml baccardi bottle. however the hole is quite large due to the bit cracking 80% the bottom as it went through (20 min of precision work wasted).

    however, it still appears quite viable for use, and i am hunting down the steel wool now. how long a plug does it need? 1cm or 2-3cm?

    also, my evaporation of naptha is incredulously slow, although a large amount of what hopefully is the freebase has begun to fall to the bottom and i separated it onta a metal tray so i can collect it shortly with a razer.
     
  5. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    i have collected approximately 30mg off the part that had already fallen out, and i cant say it looks much different from the HCL salt form did.

    also, i thought naptha would evap overnight or so, but it seems to be taking hours and hours to evaporate (theres about 150ml)



    EDIT: because of how irritatingly slow and insufficint this process has been so far, i figure i should have a plan B ready.

    In the case that the new, hopefully freebase, material fails to work correctly, i plan to take a desperate use of the (now melted-ug) HCL salt i still have.

    what would be the best way to do this? i attempted to snort about 5mg through a short piece of straw, but experienced nothing but nasal numbness and the most revolting mucus
     
  6. dexgo

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    It's hcl just like cocaine hcl.

    just add baking soda and cook in a spoon into smokable form.

    then smoke it like crack.

    it works very very well.
     
  7. Mr.Writer

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    Whoa really? Far out I didn't know you could smoke dmt like crack.
     
  8. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    It doesn't necessarily have to.

    What are you evaporating it in? If it's just in a Mason jar, you can expect it to take a couple days. Pour it into a glass baking dish and point a fan at it. Shouldn't take more than a couple hours.
     
  9. klondike_bar

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    ok. i was under impression it would evap faster or same speed as acetone, which it apparently does not.

    on second glance, the part that did fall out does in fact look different. it is slightly paler and has not melted to an oily gunk yet.

    still, i plan to use/require it this weekend, and am running out of time. In the case that the naptha evaporation is too slow for when its needed (im still working at it tho), what is the best usage of the (semi-gooy-melted) salt form ?
     
  10. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    So your HCl turned oily and gooey? I'm not sure what you can do with that. I'm not really sure how that happened.
     
  11. klondike_bar

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    i think because it was stored at room temp somehow.

    before, if it remained in contact with my finger for more than a second it would begin to melt into an oily sortof form.

    worst case, is it smokeable even? at higher amounts maybe?

    im about to say fuck it and order a proper batch of freebase 5-meo-dmt and some 2c-e from an online source (not the one that f-ed up, the one with the purple background)
     
  12. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    I'm not sure. A better description and/or pictures would be necessary to be able to tell you what's up with it. Did it turn oily after you evaporated it or what? After you added water?
     
  13. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    um, sorry, i think i may have lost you somewhere.

    the original bag of HCL salt 5-meo-dmt has esentially liquified. storing it for 20min in the freezer only achieved a slight freezing of it, which re-liquified overnight.

    however, the very small amount i have thus far removed from the naptha is slighly paler and is much more solid. it would likely crumble if i pressured the clump.

    unfortunately, the extraction is VERY slow, and i may resort to some last-ditch use of the salt form this weekend. how would i do that best?
     
  14. 36fuckin5

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    Sorry, I've got no experience with 5-MeO-DMT. Just general alkaloid extractions and switching salts.

    The extraction shouldn't be slow at all. It'd take maybe 10 minutes to add the lye to the water, a few seconds to add the alkaloids, maybe an hour to let it react, an hour or so to extract the alkaloids into the naptha, then 2 hours or so to evaporate the naptha. So about 4 hours total, 5 if you fuck something up and have to fix it.

    Also, I just read over the thread again - was the pot you used stainless steel or aluminum? Steel would have been best, as it won't react with anything. Could explain the yellow color of the water.
     
  15. klondike_bar

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    probably steel. i just conducted a few additional extractions, since i didnt discard the water last time.

    naptha is incredulously slow to evaporate. even putting about 20ml on a large pan in sunlight takes several hours.

    this is sentially looking like a lost cause for the most part, and i will end up reordering a new bunch of PROPER chemicals i think. I plan on getting some freebased 5-meo, 2ce, and anything you guys may suggest? im open to anything, cuz im new to these territories....:cheers2:
     
  16. klondike_bar

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    well, the experiement was a falure. there was an unmistakable skakiness to my movements for several minutes, but that was the limit of my experience using what was roughly 5-12mg (all ive extracted this far...)

    can i injest the HCL salt? otherwise im about to trashcan it and buy a nice new fun-pack of chemicals (any suggestions beside 2ce, and 5-meo-dmt-freebase?)
     
  17. dead2dacore

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    what are you looking for in the trip, and what psychedelics do you already enjoy?
     
  18. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    i have tried weed, LSD, LSA, and shrooms.

    shrooms was not quite my style because there was little mental clarity and the feeling that you have been truly "drugged" (few memories of trip). also, i had a bad experience that lacked the clarity to properly alter my psyche/outlook in regards to drugs.

    LSA was enjoyable, but was very low dose. It resembled a many-times-stronger than usual weed high, but without any lack of motivation or introvertedness. at 350 MG seeds it provided an ideal high for being with others.

    LSD was by far most enjoyable. Unfortunately i spent much of the rather weak peak watching Pink Floyd concert dvds, and not exploring the visual and mental properties fully. However, I was blown away by the incredible perception of sound quality and a deep meaningfulness to the music. I experienced menatl clarity and the ability to have quite decisive opinions, even on topics i previously was unsure of. I walked away with a vaugely different outlook on life, which i believe has stuck with me since (though not really life-changing persay)

    also, i have read small (very small) exerpts of Tim Leary's writings and took from it that LSD is not useful only as a blown-into-space drug, but also as a low-dose chemical that can be used continuously in small amounts to gradually form ourselves mentally and spiritually. Assuming this is a logical interpretation, i very much agree, and would love to go a week taking continuous small hits in order to maintain an altered (but not overwhelming) state of consious in the quest for self-discovery and learning.

    sorry to drag that out, but thought it may provide more insight on myself.

    finally, i read up a bit on making an ayahuasca (or pharahuasca?) with the 5-meo-dmt and an MAOI. however, the limited trip reports of such combination have me cautious. this is mainly because i suffered a bad shroom trip (felt on verge of death from a pitiful existance, and was the most horrible/agonizing 2 hours of my life), and do not wish to repeat such an experience.
     
  19. dead2dacore

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    if you like lsd, i would bet that you would enjoy 2c-e and 2c-t-7. having tried -e, -t7, -t2, -i, and -b, ive found -e and -t7 to be the most visually stunning and the best for enhancing music.

    if you dont like shrooms, its possible that you might not like tryptamines as a whole. who knows tho. i guess my favorite thing about RCs is finding out what you like in a trip, and having a lot more options then when your friend comes back in town with mushies or doses.

    i cant honestly tell you what will seem more spiritually oriented though. i cant say that i find lsd to be especially spirtual; and i view shrooms as the ultimate spiritual psychedelic. but even spirituality is all relative: i view spirituality as the celebration of the gift of life, and i look at music, art, and dancing as all spiritual acts. in other words, dancing on mushrooms at a concert completly emersed in the experience is a very spiritual act to me (with the added benefit of being really fun and exciting :hat: ).
     
  20. klondike_bar

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    thanks for the tip.

    update: gathered more sodium hydroxide and made a higher concentration of it in the water.

    this round of extraction was much more effective, rendering approximately 200-250mg of tan/beige crystals. I expect there is still a moderate amount (100-150mg) still in the water, requiring further pulls.
     

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