My "racist" Rant On Nationalism

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  1. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    well they did have slavery under the jack didnt they? at best you can argue it isnt anymore...but for some reason the confederate flag dosnt get that right according to some people.
     
  2. thefutureawaits

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    All national flags are racist and territorial. That the intention. Borders
     
  3. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    No mate I mean the English Flag Not the Union Jack
     
  4. mallyboppa

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    Just Found This !
    http://youtu.be/mTlr0707vLU
     
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  5. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    the way it seems to me is its probly only a few people with very big mouths that are saying its racist. of course i cant say for sure but that kind of thing happens here quite a bit.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I agree and it seems that these big-mouths have the most influential power over the rest of us rational folks.
     
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  8. Irminsul

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    I just call them soldiers, or people. :D though the correct term would be national socialist, though I don't see soldiers fighting a war ever calling themselves that. I don't think the politically correct terminology ever came up during a firefight.
     
  9. Irminsul

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    I kno, rite.

    You know what bothers me about America a lot? Is the mispronunciation of surnames. Like you say, some are very proud of their heritage yet that continually mispronounce surnames just to make it easier on themselves. Like the letter W. In some European cultures a W ain't a W. But in America, they gotta say it like a W. You tell 'em it's actually a V sounding letter, they tell you you don't know what you're talking about. :D

    I mostly see this in the American sports. There's been a few NASCAR drivers, right now Brad Keselowski is one of them, clearly An eastern Euro name, but I read that as Keselovski.

    Names ending in icz emphasizes the "itch" sound yet Americans pronounce it like "icks" and it's as if the person with the intriguing European surname doesn't even know how to pronounce it correctly to begin with. And that bothers me a lot for whatever reason.

    Honestly, when people don't even attempt to say a surname correctly, or don't even say it because they know they can't I just wanna punch 'em in the nose. You expect all visitors to learn the English language etc. but you've not one interest in learning or even attempting to pronounce a "difficult" surname. Tsk tsk. It's shameful and ignorant.
     
  10. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    umm, i thought it was common knowledge that proper names are pronounced the way the person who named it decides to pronounce it.
    thats like saying its not pronounced coke it is pronounced cockey.
    get over yourself because i am gonna pronounce my name the way that i want, if you dont like it well than just stay over there and say it wrong.
     
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  11. abarambling

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    I mean it would be logical enough to ask. You would think that would be easy enough, but not with my family. Them, crazy kids. In saying that, my my dad has passed many years ago. Also, he wasn't really in my life when he was alive. I mean he was there, but not really. Like a shadow, or something. And before you suggest to ask his other family. I can't ask them either because they disowned my dad during his youth. Also, they don't like my mom because she was super young in comparison to him. Stuff. Before my time.

    As for not labeling myself as American, I just don't identify myself with any nationality, race, or ethnicity. I'll answer to the best of my knowledge, if you ask or you press the issue. But, I'm more like, I don't know, I don't care. I'm human. Why do you need to know? Are you asking me because we are going to make babies together and you want to know whether or not they will have blue eyes? Well, let me answer that now, my eyes used to be green, but now are as black as my soul. But, blue eyes do run AT LEAST in my mother family, that I know of. So, 50/50 chance of the sought over blue eyes, but you do have to consider the dominant gene of brown eyes. Also, things changing as they get older. I know a lot of family members who used to be fair skinned and now are dark skinned. And not like, "Oh, they have a tan because of working in the garden". No, they're dark skinned.

    All in all I really don't know about my family. I've asked many times, but... no. Which is fine, I guess. I don't really care in the first place. Granted, that probably was because of upbringing. I mean it's a fairly important thing to most people, so I don't see why I would be any different.
     
  12. pensfan13

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    My grandmother used to have an answer when we asked about country of origin.
    "You are a little bit of everything and not much of anything".
     
  13. abarambling

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    And another thing, I know I'm Puerto Rican, Korean, Spainard, somewhere in the mix of everything. And I was born in Puerto Rico. Lived there for five years before moving. So, American... in other words. Actually, by your standards American, Puerto Rican or just one or the other due to Puerto Rico being U.S. owned. Because I've only been to Puerto Rico. Never Korea nor Spain. This isn't taking into consideration what my father really is, but I'm sure I haven't been there either. So, by your stardards I'm not that either. As for what I make myself as in forms. I mark myself as Other and Hispanic/Latino, because the two are not separate, even though people want them to be. Whatever, I don't care.

    Hope that helps.
     
  14. abarambling

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one that has a family full of secrets. Or maybe they're just lazy, and don't want to bother.
     
  15. pensfan13

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    I wouldn't call it lazy. I found out later it was more likely because 3 of my great grandparents were orphans.
     
  16. abarambling

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    I kind of agree with this, because my mom loves that I have fair skinned. And doesn't like that she has dark skinned. Also, she loves blonde hair. My sister when she was younger had really, really blonde hair. But, now her hair is dark brown. My mom also never wanted us to learn other languages, even though her native tongue isn't English, and she can't really understand us if we do speak English to her. So, we have to speak in her language to her, AT LEAST. But, learning new languages, she nags. Nothing is over the top, though. It's not like she is an extremist, or anything. I think we all have prejudices due to that one or two bad experiences, and thinking that is the general rule. So, these are my mom's. I wouldn't call her an 'IST' in any form. To be honest, I wouldn't call most of this thread racist. Maybe ignorant, at least. But, I'm sure a lot of people were joking in their posts.
     
  17. abarambling

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    Now, that I have thought about it a bit, looking at it by Piaf's standards, it does make this whole dreaded question a lot easier to answer. Stating that you are from ONLY the places you were actually born in, makes the question a lot easier to answer. I was born in Puerto Rico, so I'm Puerto Rican. In other words, American. It doesn't matter what my mom or dad are. It's just focuses on me.

    I'll probably go by that from now on. I kind of already do. But, sometimes when I feel like I'm lying then I just tell the person that I don't know.

    I think I had an epiphany just now. Yup. I feel more mature. I'll see profoundness, growth, and all that stuff that makes humans important in another ten years. All this self reflecting has gotten me tired. So, I'm going to take a nap.
     
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  18. puggybear

    puggybear stars may twinkle-but I shine!

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    NOW you all understand why here on Mars,we don't have nations!
     
  19. Piney

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    My Ma calls it: "The Butchers Apron"
     
  20. abarambling

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    Apparently, I'm obsessed with this topic now. By the way, I hate you PR. Yup, we are offfically not besties anymore even if you didn't know we were besties in the first place. But, anyways... I was just looking up things relating to this, and my own upbringing. While I was looking all this stuff up... I read a comment that stated people who were born in Puerto Rico are not American. WTF? According to this... basement dweller... Puerto Ricans have US citizenship, but because Puerto Rico isn't apart of the United States they're not American. They compared Puerto Ricans having U.S citizenship as someone from another country getting U.S. citzenship. For example, someone from Germany getting U.S. citizenship. Basically, you have the citzenship, but you will never be American.

    So, apparently I'm not American. How about that for apples?

    Now, I'm back to being confused, frightened, and alone.
     

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