My theory of god.

I am a joke, my ego is, I often laugh at it, it tis absurd, thank you for reminding me guru... and I'm sorry you don't seem to know you got the cosmic joke...

This reminds me of that quote, "God is a comedian and everybody is afraid of laugh." - Voltaire

So true, so true... Don't be afraid to laugh.

It's interesting you mention you objectivity. This is an assumption that materialists make.

"Assumption 1; Strong objectivity; A basic assumption that the materialist makes is that there is an objetive material universe out there, one that is independant of us. This assumption has some operational validity, and is often assume to be necessaru to conduct science meaningfully. Is the assumption really valid? The lessons of qunatum physics is that we choose which aspect--wave or particle--a quantum object is going to reveal in a given situation. Moreover, our observation collapse the quantum wave packet into a localaized particle. Subjects and objects are inextricably blended together. If subjects and objects mesh in this way, how can we uphold the assumption of strong objectivity." - Amit Goswami

We can't, the dream unfolds as we truly wish to see it.

 

This is the best thing you have said. I agree too....actually I have other posts on hipforums when I say the exact same thing. "I am a joke, life is a joke, etc" I do not even believe in a "collective self" . So cheers for that point!!!!!

What is your point here? I am not a materialist and I do not uphold the assumption of strong objectivity. I argue against it, so whats your point? Is your point that quantum physisits don't necessarily rely on empirical evidence? If thats your point, then the ones that don't cover there ass with "mysticism". Is your point that the "demise of materialism" paves the way for mysticism? Sounds fishy, sounds like you've ripped down the wall and now need some type of support so you brace it with "mysticism". How can you be smart enough to reject empirical evidence and then back peddle and support mysticism? Science has empirical evidence, mysticism has no evidence. My point is that evidence can't be trusted but is required to PROVE SOMETHING TO BE TRUE, hence part of the human condition is that we can not know or prove "truth". How do you make the leap from admitting scientific evidence can't be trusted to claiming mysticism can be?

 

Ugh.

Okay, seriously, GanjaPrince, I think it all boils down to this:

You need to learn how to be even mildly funny.

Please, please, do not ever go into stand up comedy, and I tell you this for your sake, because you WILL be murdered if you do.

Now grow up and stop wasting people's time.

 

Wavy Gravy said, "If you don;t have a sense of humor it just isn't funny."

That's you, you haven't found you cosmic sense of humor yet... and that's ok... that is perfectly ok, dont shoot yourself.

Many people, like you Hikuru, are assholes when it comes to humor thinking they can tell when people are funny or not... But really humor does come down to taste. Somebody people laugh madly at racist jokes, others find them offensive. It is taste.

The humor that I use and speak in is this kind... And deep down everybody is laughing at this kind of humor, because it is the humor of God which is very different then human humor.

Once a sufi started laughing before his master even told the zen koan purely out of trust, and was enlightened that instant.

Now if you don't laugh or find that funny it is because you haven't realized that you already got the cosmic joke.

It's the kind of humor when you can just laugh at the absurdity of it all... It is one joke, about one thing the cosmic consciousness, the comedy of god, cosmic humor... And everybody is afraid to laugh as Voltaire said. But nobody can laugh... so are you nobody?

Not that I don't respect "official" comedy, I love it, and often much cosmic humor comes through traditional humor...

The point is people that can;t laugh for no reason must have an incredible boring life full of suffering, let the laughter I am speak of has COMPASSION, it is compassionate humor.

Once I had a girlfriend who never got my humor, then one day, she started laughing, we laughed and giggled for hours and hours... for no apparent reason. She asked, "Is this how you feel all the time?" I remember saying, "Most of the time when I remember the cosmic joke."

But she couldn't stick with it, it was too much for her, she couldn't bear the shock...

and now she can't repeat that experience, it overwhelmed her, but she at least knows it is true, because she had a glimpse of it.

THe biggest joke though is the ego itself. laughing at your own ego, is one of the greatest lessons in life..


Now, about me saying I know the truth. Here are some moody blues lyrics to further illustrate my point, I think you will be more open to reading this my friend.

"
Give just a little bit more
Take a little bit less
From each other tonight
Admit what you're feeling
And see what's in front of you,
It's never out of your sight.
You know it's true,
We all know that it's true."

Thus you know about this truth I speak of... and it's avaliable to our senses, in this song the sense of sight is mention... the sense of sight can be used to see the cosmic consciousness, the oneness... And we all know it's true, because we are all god.

It is the seperate self, the ego, Hikaru, Ganja Prince, and all the rest of the egos doing thier dance, that think they don't know....

BUT I KNOW. AND I AM YOU, FIND ME IN YOU.

"Wonderful day for passing my way.
Knock on my door, even the score
With your eyes.


Lovely to see you again my friend.
Walk along with me to the next bend.

Dark cloud of fear is blowing away
Now that you're here, you're going to stay,
'cause it's Lovely to see you again my friend.
Walk along with me to the next bend."

Here is where we are trying to get,

Here is where it all happens.

Here is where the cosmic joke is found, the truth of the cosmic consciousness is revealed.

Be HERE, NOW!

"So love everybody and make them your friend." -Moody Blues


It's easy like the beatles said, when you know it's all one ocean and your holy temple has its needs taken care of.

 

once again you are skirting around MY COMMENTS...........

like I said I commend you for your understanding of the cosmic joke but don't you feel that the "interconnected nature of all things" you sense could possibly be part of the cosmic joke?

and again its sad to watch you RETREAT and COWER. Maybe you shouldn't tell people what is true and what isn't true without a well thought out argument behind it.

you think your funny, i think your a new age facist.

koopa

p.s. the moody blues quote was sad.....just more "window dressing" and irreverant metaphors. It doesn't support you at all.

P.P.S. pointing out how weak your argument is, IS OUR WAY of "loving you and making you our friend" so to speak

 

I love you too man, after all you are ME.

I think it really funny you call me a new age fascist, thank you, I really got a kick out of being called that, you are a fun debated man, I can tell you are having a good time


And about the cosmic joke, Everything is part of the cosmic joke, including the interconnected thing, but it goes further then that, it's not just interconnected, it is only one, one without two... there is no seperation, seperation only exists as part of an illussion in the perception of a lifeform. I'm sorry I can't respond to every little thing you say, I don't do it all of fear silly, it's more out of sloth. Which is nothing to be commended.... It's not hiding, it is laziness to make sure I covered all my bases.

Well well thought out arguments are for my college papers, this is more a fun debate where I do it off the top of my head. I just wing it most of the time on these forums which you can tell obviously. Often times I post my college papers on these forums, but people don't respond as much as when I wing it... hehehe, people are lazy, like me.

 

Thanks for the kind words, I am having fun

But riddle me this batman, how can you know and prove that the connection is not part of an illusion? You just keep saying "the seperation is the illusion, the connection is the truth". You can't know which one is real and which one is illusion, so please don't claim to unless you can back it up!

Koopa

P.S. Have you ever seen the movie "I Heart Huckabee's"? In a way I feel like this debate is playing out just like that film.

P.P.S. Maybe I should dig out some of my old philosophy papers, including the one where I make a 10+ page argument against the existence of the soul or self. Or the 17 page one where I tie this into the complimentary eastern philosophy's which also argue against the existence of the self.

 

No need for such dire threats, please have mercy, I have shuddered at the mere mention of such an act.
The soul is beyond this material world, if real, which I feel is the case. The eastern concept that the only reality is the spirit, since all matter is transigent, and hence not real in the truest sense.
Philosophy is a popular mental exercise, for some. I know a doctor of philosophy, who is also very intelligent. But even though I was encouraged to pursue that field, and told I had much potential, I don't like philosophy.
It is too theoretical, and in my view, often has little relevance in real life.
Arguing against the souls existence is a good example. Another one I have found true, yet of no practical relevance is the theoretical posit that good and evil are no different. I feel they are, in practice, if not in theory. In theory there is no difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is.
The most real things are the ones we can't see.

 

Your point is that the "soul" is beyond the material world. Furthermore your point is that the soul is real, eternal, fixed, never changing.

Well its obvious that we have different views on whether or not the "soul" exists. You argue that the soul exists, is real, and is eternal. However, your claim that it exists "outside" the material world. Since the soul is outside the material world and real, it would appear that your claiming that the material world isn't real. Rather the material world is an ever changing world of sensory input.

With that being said,

First off, why does the debate have to have "relevance in real life" especially when you and I both agree that "real life" can't be taken as reality?

Second off, how do you come to know that you have a soul? ESPECIALLY when your argument no longer permits you to know it through the senses because it is outside / seperate from the material world?

My point is that the soul, or eternal self image is a fallicy. Your "self" is an everchanging image.....a perception that comes and goes......never fixed.
The thing we experience is the make shift world of perception.....but we experience it through the senses which can not be trusted. They do not present a depiction of what is REAL.

 

Seperation is an illussion, one conciousness is the truth, Oneness. There is no seperation, the argument for seperation being real, is the same as having a dream where a monster is chasing you... It can feel real to someone lost in the dream running from the monster, but a lucid dreamer would be able to stare down the monster and know that whatever happened, they would wake up soon...

I can know and I do know, and I back it up with my own mystical knowledge quantum mechanics, empirical evidence of various mystical experinece of unity across religion and cultures, various abilities and mental powers that came with it.

My own BEING is more then enough evidence for myself, for I am in you, I am you. And I am agreeing with myself deep inside you... there is just this dream character Koopa that thinks it is real... we laugh compassionately about such things as one.

Yeah I dig the movie.


You could select some nice quotes from it, but don't bother trying to convince me of anything. It would just be interesting to go back and forth about it. I'm already sold on this one conciousness trip, I trust it more then I trust gravity.

 

Yeah thats the rhetoric I'm talking about....you keep saying that without any cited evidence.

My argument is Not that seperation is real!!!!!!!!!
My argument is that the human body can not know anything for certain because

A. All observations are made with the senses of an observer.
B. The senses are subjectively biased; they can't portray any ETERNAL UNIFIED OBJECTIVE TRUTH
C. Therefore no subjectively biased observation can serve as empirical evidence for an objective truth

I'm easier terms, truth can not be KNOWN by a single observer

Knowledge is an illusion, our "reality" is merely perception and that beliefs are the most that anybody can derive from perceptions!
Seperation and unity are just dichromatic opposites.
Its a faction that the logic your mind uses creates.
You are the one whose mind is operating through such CONSTRUCTS.

YOU THINK AND INSIST ITS REAL....not me! You think its real, interconnected, and all one! You believe in the blanket from I Heart Huckabee's.....you believe in what the movie suggests. We don't laugh compassionately about such things as one......WE DO NOT EXIST. Don't you see how convoluted your thinking is? Koopa is imaginary ganja prince is imaginary....it is one and WE LAUGH TOGETHER IN THAT ONE???? That thought is anthropomorphic because you give human qualities to the ONE. That idea has poor grammar because ONE is more of an IT not a WE. That idea is convoluted because you suggest it ALL EXISTS....THE ONE......THE ME AND YOU......all different but all the same but all existing, that is your claim.

So you "back up" your existential "knowledge" with your "mystical knowledge"? Thats redundant, cyclical son...... Quantum mechanics lends more support to my view........it acknowledges that matter is mostly empty space, it acknowledges that sub atomic particals DISSAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR supporting the view that each sub atomic partical dissappearing in our perception of reality is actually appearing in a different perception of reality. Quantum mechanics suggests that "reality" is more like a THOUGHT.....a wave of perception that comes into existance and out of existance....hence its never constant....never stable....never eternal....never REAL!!!

No offense, but you are just rambling on like a drugged out college undergrad..........and I've been there......I've been that......thats why i recognize it in you.....because i recognize it in my past......you would probably find here to be a good place to say "aha you admit it we are one...we are sharing an experience" but I would then retort. I will say that if you want to use Decartes argument for existence then your mind and body which makes you think is different from my mind and body which makes me think. Hence you claiming your own existence and reality makes you acknowledge your SUBJECTIVE differences from other mind/body free thinking creatures that exist. So the subjective differences in our experience shows that the experience is not shared and that you are you and I am I BECAUSE we have different experiences even while doing similar things. But in actuality I would take it a step further and say that neither of us exists and therefore we can NEVER share an experience. Guess what....that idea allows for subjective perception. And guess what we are doing......one hint: subjectively perceiving!
Furthermore you've admitted that you found god recently taking LSD so don't deny it.

The truth is that at first it made me sad about myself because I know I must of sounded this convoluted to the people i communicated with at that time. But then it made me sad for you because your living it right now. Then I realized that its a natural progression and you'll figure it out in time. After your faith dies and your need for faith dies along with it............its quite depressing and empowering at the same time. So now that I summed up the psychological development of academic drug using philosophers in there 20's, try to enjoy the process. Hope I didn't take all the flavor out of the next 5 years of your life

 

They are part of what is real.

 

what the senses? are you crazy?

check out cognitive science of psychological experiements on cognitive illusions such as the phi phenomenon or the color phenomenon. If you have two pen lights taped together facing the same direction, you can alternate turning one on and the other off at a fast rate. What you see though isn't one dot of light dissappearing and another dot of light appearing next to the first one as it dissappears. What you see is 1 dot of light that never turns off, it merely moves in a pendulum like fashion. Search for studies on "apparent motion". The color phi phenomenon is cool.....say one pen light is yellow and the other blue, guess what color dot you'll see on the wall moving like a pendulum when you alternate which pen light is on.........you guessed it A GREEN DOT moving back and forth! Also when you look out of a moving vehicle you know how sometimes car rims appear to be spinning in the opposite direction......or how a ceiling fan appears to change directions when it slows down? What about the philosophical concept of "qualia" which suggests that each person perceives the same object IN THERE OWN SUBJECTIVELY DIFFERENT WAY? For example, say your brain sees the color green as orange. Everytime you looked at something green you would see orange and call it green! Nobody would ever know that you see something else. What about psychological studies that show that brain damage in a certain brain area can result in a condition in which people take information into the brain through the eyes yet never SEE IT. You can hold a card with the picture of a star on it in front of there face. The person doesn't see a star but if you give them a multiple choice question they choose star even though they say they choose it at random. If you show them 10 cards with 10 symbols on it and then 10 multiple choice questions the person with this type of blindness choses the correct answer up to 90% of the time!!!!!!!!

My point is that the senses are KNOWN DECEIVERS

 

Here is some evidence man, I'm just lazy about it sometimes, because I kept resposting the same evidence for you materialists.

[size=+1]The Self-Aware Universe[/size]
Exceprts from anInterview with Amit Goswami
[size=-2][Abridged][/size]
[size=-2]by Craig Hamilton - What is Enlightment?[/size]

[size=-1]WIE: What you are saying is that modern science, from a completely different angle—not assuming anything about the existence of a spiritual dimension of life—has somehow come back around, and is finding itself in agreement with that view as a result of its own discoveries.[/size]

[size=-1]AG: That's right. And this is not entirely unexpected. Starting from the beginning of quantum physics, which began in the year 1900 and then became full-fledged in 1925 when the equations of quantum mechanics were discovered, quantum physics has given us indications that the worldview might change. Staunch materialist physicists have loved to compare the classical worldview and the quantum worldview. Of course, they wouldn't go so far as to abandon the idea that there is only upward causation and that matter is supreme, but the fact remains that they saw in quantum physics some great paradigm changing potential. And then what happened was that, starting in 1982, results started coming in from laboratory experiments in physics. That is the year when, in France, Alain Aspect and his collaborators performed the great experiment that conclusivelyestablished the veracity of the spiritual notions, andparticularly the notion of transcendence. Should I go into a little bit of detail about Aspect's experiment?[/size]

[size=-1]WIE: Yes, please do.[/size]

[size=-1]AG: To give a little background, what had been happening was that for many years quantum physics had been giving indications that there are levels of reality other than the material level. How it started happening first was that quantum objects—objects in quantum physics—began to be looked upon as waves of possibility. Now, initially people thought, "Oh, they are just like regular waves." But very soon it was found out that, no, they are not waves in space and time. They cannot be called waves in space and time at all—they have properties which do not jibe with those of ordinary waves. So they began to be recognized as waves in potential, waves of possibility, and the potential was recognized as transcendent, beyond matter somehow.[/size]
[size=-1]But the fact that there is transcendent potential was not very clear for a long time. Then Aspect's experiment verified that this is not just theory, there really is transcendent potential,objects really do have connections outside of space and time—outside of space and time! What happens in this experiment is that an atom emits two quanta of light, called photons, going opposite ways, and somehow these photons affect one another's behavior at a distance, without exchanging any signals through space. Notice that: without exchanging any signals through space but instantly affecting each other. Instantaneously. [/size]
[size=-1]Now Einstein showed long ago that two objects can never affect each other instantly in space and time because everything must travel with a maximum speed limit, and that speed limit is the speed of light. So any influence must travel, if it travels through space, taking a finite time. This is called the idea of "locality." Every signal is supposed to be local in the sense that it must take a finite time to travel through space. And yet, Aspect's photons—the photons emitted by the atom in Aspect's experiment—influence one another, at a distance, without exchanging signals because they are doing it instantaneously—they are doing it faster than the speed of light. And therefore it follows that the influence could not have traveled through space. Instead the influence must belong to a domain of reality that we must recognize as the transcendent domain of reality.[/size]

[size=-1]WIE: That's fascinating. Would most physicists agree with that interpretation of his experiment?[/size]

[size=-1]AG: Well, physicists must agree with this interpretation of this experiment. Many times of course, physicists will take the following point of view: they will say, "Well, yeah sure, experiments. But this relationship between particles really isn't important. We mustn't look into any of the consequences of this transcendent domain—if it can even be interpreted that way." In other words, they try to minimize the impact of this and still try to hold on to the idea that matter is supreme.[/size]
[size=-1]But in their heart they know, as is very evidenced. In 1984 or '85, at the American Physical Society meeting at which I was present, it is said that one physicist was heard saying to another physicist that, after Aspect's experiment, anyone who does not believe that something is really strange about the world must have rocks in his head.[/size]

[size=-1]WIE: So what you are saying is that from your point of view, which a number of others share, it is somehow obvious that one would have to bring in the idea of a transcendent dimension to really understand this.[/size]

[size=-1]AG: Yes, it is. Henry Stapp,who is a physicist at the University of California at Berkeley, says this quite explicitly in one of his papers written in 1977, that things outside of space and time affect things inside space and time. There's just no question that that happens in the realm of quantum physics when you are dealing with quantum objects. Now of course, the crux of the matter is, the surprising thing is, that we are always dealing with quantum objects because it turns out that[/size]quantum physics is the physics of every object.[size=-1] Whether it's submicroscopic or it's macroscopic,quantum physics is the only physics we've got. So although it's more apparent for photons, for electrons, for the submicroscopic objects, our belief is that all reality,all manifest reality, all matter, is governed by the same laws. And if that is so, then this experiment is telling us that we should change our worldview becausewe, too, are quantum objects."[/size]


Now of course that doesn't convince you of anything... but from my persepctive which is also yours because I feel that what is talking and what you think you are does not even exist at all... only the one conciousness, seperate selves are illussions.

So Im only arguing with a nonexistant entity that is only fooled into thinking its seperate because getting lost in the dream is what makes waking up SO WORTH IT!





You sayd "My argument is Not that seperation is real!!!!!!!!!
My argument is that the human body can not know anything for certain because

A. All observations are made with the senses of an observer.
B. The senses are subjectively biased; they can't portray any ETERNAL UNIFIED OBJECTIVE TRUTH
C. Therefore no subjectively biased observation can serve as empirical evidence for an objective truth

I'm easier terms, truth can not be KNOWN by a single observer"

A. The senses are mearly doorways, to be used to acheving true observation of the one conciousness
B. The senses when used correctly can percieve the one conciousness, most commonly known as "god"
C. Your so logic is invalid form of percieving truth.

In easier terms, truth is KNOWN BY ALL, it just some think they don't know as part of the drama of aspects of the one conciousness getting lost in the dream.

 

You write, "YOU THINK AND INSIST ITS REAL....not me! You think its real, interconnected, and all one! You believe in the blanket from I Heart Huckabee's.....you believe in what the movie suggests. We don't laugh compassionately about such things as one......WE DO NOT EXIST. Don't you see how convoluted your thinking is? Koopa is imaginary ganja prince is imaginary....it is one and WE LAUGH TOGETHER IN THAT ONE???? That thought is anthropomorphic because you give human qualities to the ONE. That idea has poor grammar because ONE is more of an IT not a WE. That idea is convoluted because you suggest it ALL EXISTS....THE ONE......THE ME AND YOU......all different but all the same but all existing, that is your claim.

The only human way to understand the one predictment is through the experience of laughter, as the laughter deepens it reveals a deeper laughter beyond the brain... laughter is just a useful way to describing the experience of the one... yet even though it personalizes itself for us... it is ultimately impersonal.

My thinking is only convulted if you try to use your rational mind to understand it... to get grasp what I say you have to pay the price.

'Magic theature

For madmen only

Price of admission your mind"

TO get into the theature you have to give up the very thing that thinks my thinking is filled with logical holes... You get it back, because it is useful to function within the dream, but to get it, you have to give it up man... and you are not willing to pay the price... You are arguing with a madman!

You says, "Quantum mechanics lends more support to my view..."

Let me make sure I got your view straight before we conintue this illussionary argument that isn't even really happening

Are you a materilist?

Materialism view that matter is supreme and conciousness is a epiphemonon

Are you a dualist?

Dualists feel that there is a material world that acts according to the will of a seperate mind or spirit world that interacts with it, and has supremity over it

Are you a monistic idealist?

That's me... we think that everything is conciousness, there is no seperation. It's all one.

Are you none of the above?



You say, "No offense, but you are just rambling on like a drugged out college undergrad..........and I've been there......I've been that......thats why i recognize it in you....."

You obviously didn't take enough drugs

You need to be brainwashed, your brain is all dirty and filled with horrid things. A nice cleaning would do ya good.



You said, "Furthermore you've admitted that you found god recently taking LSD so don't deny it. "

I wouldn't call it recent, I took LSD when I 17 and yes it banished my materialism, my atheism and so on... as I had my first mystical experience... And I admit I've had about 60 trips, but I am not on LSD now, and I feel the same awareness and more clear now then that trip... so what does it matter?

I pracitce other methods besides drugs, meditation, chanting, guru, etc.

What brought about the experience I feel doesn't call into question is validity... whether it be a guru, drugs, hypnosis, meditation, whatever...

It doesn't matter what got you there, it is getting there

and there is the HERE NOW

I am here, are you?

Of course, we are one! there is nothing in this unvierse that disagrees with me except dream characters that think they are real... wow... the one conciousness sures knows how to fool itself.

Come on man, saying such things don't give me in the inkling of the possibility of doubt. I'm too mad, the one conciousness.

The progression occurs in you dude. Just because you gave up your awareness that you had for materialistic ways and got corrupted by maya... You may be so corrupte by the illussion that it takes till the death of your brain to remember who you are... that's ok, its part of the leela, the divine comedy.

(isn't this fun, man are you fun to argue with!)

Are you kidding man, I told you, you are arguing with a MADMAN, I will never be corrupted as deeply by maya as what happened to you... I've been too brainwashed, too many drugs... I'm what you called FRIED... there is no turning back for me... I'm done... toasted!

Sure I have all the other things to work on attachment, greeed, lust, sloth, and on and on

But doubt, I killed d the last few years... It cost alot mind you. but I did it... thank god.


So I'm too nuts, I've done too much meditation, have too many gurus, too many mantras, too many beatles songs, too many psychedelics... too much of all that... My brain is rewired and washed and washed again. Plus I'm stubborn, the more people argue against me, the more I get into my side deeper and deeper. you are helping me be more brainwashed and into the one conciousness, you are pushing me deeper into my mystical "psychosis" as you would consider it.


We're all nuts on our way to being peanut butter, in realization only of course, because we are already peanut butter the one conciousness

You see you are one of these peanuts, we're all in line you see.. and you will get your turn and become peanut butter.. don't worry it will be over before you know it.

 

ok, first of all please learn how to use quotes correctly because you have mixed up our posts so bad that its hard to determine who is saying what.

Second of all, your right about one thing ganja prince, your "mystical crap" is FAR TOO IRRATIONAL for me to even discuss.

Third of all, your "evidence" is just a quote without any backing. The person you quote doesn't even make a convincing argument!

Fourth of all, I keep repeating my argument because nobody has posed one that can refute it.

Fifth of all, why should I choose one of the PREDEFINED schools of thought you read about in a book? So that you can read about a PREDEFINED weakness in that school of thought? I've told you enought about my beliefs, you should be able to figure it out. But you can't because you don't truly understand what you are speaking about. You NEED ME to classify myself so that you can READ ABOUT the deficency in that classification.

Sixth of all, I WAS SPEAKING TO KHARKOV

 

There is only one being talking. what does it matter really?


And frued the king of athiests in a way that reduced all spirituality to masked sexuality once said


"I have always lived in the basement of this building. You claim that with a change of viewpoint one is able to see an upper story which houses such distinguished geusts as religion, art, etc. If I had another lifetime of work before me, I have no doubt that I could find room for these noble guests in my little subterean house"

You see, thats where the materialists and anti-mystics are doing, wallowing in the basement with the likes of frueds masterbating to scientific theories that support thier view and wiping thier come on everything that disagrees.

Good luck with that dude. I love ya.

 

fall back on humor again pal.....its your default when you have nothing intelligent to say

 

I have nothing to say really...


Stop thinking
Stop talking

and BE


then you will understand the nothing, the one conciousness..

which I talk and think about.

Nothing is another word for God.

 

do you pay your guru in granola ya crunchy new age hippy? Why don't you just keep reading the Celestine Prophecy and playing D&D? There hows that for humor?