Noam Federman is the Messiah

Discussion in 'Judaism' started by questing400, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Drew - my point to you about people like Xexon is if you have irrational fears about any group of people - be it Jews or zionist or people named Xexon, it is not a healthy thing and not a sign of an educated person.

    Hate is hate no matter who you are hating. And G-d commands us to love, not to hate.

    Kiss up to him if you want, but know behind closed doors, everything single thing he has ever claimed has been disproved and I am the last person wasting my time responding to his hate riddled comments. And I only do it because I know G-d is forced to love this loser.
     
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    questing400 Senior Member

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    This is beautifully put, Varuna. And thank you for getting this thread back on track.

    If people realized what a gift the Temple is to humanity, they would be rushing to construct it. Instead you have people like Xexon yelling about the fundamental X-ians and their "plot" to take over the world...

    :mad:
     
  3. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    How are they not trying to take over the world?...




    What exactly do you mean by this temple?
     
  4. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Q, people don't believe in your version of reality. Out of 6 billion plus people, 14-15 million are followers of this religion. Out of that number, a small percentage are extremist like yourself.

    Your belief in a book is all you have to guide you. After 3000 plus years of waiting, its time somebody told you your bus isn't coming. I got the same message for the Christians so don't think I'm not an equal in what I hammer on.

    Noam Federman is a racist. If you follow his path, that makes you a racist as well.


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  5. inthetrees

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    amen
     
  6. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    The Temple is G-d' gift to the world! Not just to the Jewish people. It is a sign that G-d has forgiven us for all our shortcomings.

    It is a sign we are capable of engendering world peace on this planet for the first time.

    It will be then that there will be a outpouring of G-dly knowledge on this planet like water covers the ocean floor!

    The messianic redemption and the Temple are not about the Jewish people, friend. They are about the entire world.
     
  7. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Again, just because you Americans were not educated about the truth in school and instead learn whatever secular knowledge they teach you, doesn't mean something is not true.

    "Hey G-d, Xexon doesn't believe. And he has some Americans who don't believe. Guess the redemption's off, right? What was that? You will never forget your people? You will redeem all of humanity because you love each and everyone of us like a father. Okay, I'll tell Xexon..."

    Dude, go back to your little conspiracy forum where you are a little popstar hating on the zionists. At least people seem to like you over there.

    You know nothing about Judaism, you refuse to learn anything, and you are simply trolling where you don't belong again.
     
  8. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Look Xexon - you found a sheep!!!

    Quickly, PM him like you do everyone else with "the holocaust never happened" links. He must know not one Jew was harmed by Hitler. Nor a homosexual, nor a communist...

    The Xexon truth must get out there...

    Dude, when you agree with Xexon I know all I'll ever need to know about you. Good day...
     
  9. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    You're still not excused young man.

    Noam Federman is inciting hatred. That always leads to violence. If you get caught up in this movement, you're going to hang alongside Mr. Federman someday.

    You will be of no value to anyone sitting in a prison cell or in the ground. You need to think long term here. You got a family to consider. They need to come first, and although I'm sure you honestly believe in what you've stated, you are endangering them by what you chase after.

    I have yet to see any idealogy worth a life. Yours included.



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  10. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Are you really older than me or are you begin sarcastic. If you are, I owe you an apology as I am commanded to respect my elders. I had you pegged around 29 or something. Sorry if that is off.

    I hear what you are saying, but truth be told - if I end up in prison for marching with Federman one day, I wouldn't be embarrassed. At least I'll be going to jail for something I believe.

    The secular government makes me sick to my stomach and I have no idea how that country kept winning all those wars when they were often times clearly outnumbered.

    I'm surprised Hashem tolerates the Jews in Israel at this point the way they act sometimes. They desecrate His Shabbath and eat pork - in Israel! The Torah is clear - if you act like the nations of the world when you enter the land, the land itself will regergatate you. And yet we are 60 years into this horrid experiement.

    Go firgure. Only thing I can think of is G-d works in mysterious ways and I can't understand everything that happens in the physical reality.
     
  11. Varuna

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    This is an impossible question. How does anyone prove they are NOT doing something. Why do you think it is necessary?

    What are you asking?



    Wow . . . OK . . . I'll take a swing at this one.

    The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is considered one of the most sacred places in the world.

    It was the location of the Beit HaMikdash (also known as Solomon's Temple or the First Temple). This was (and still is) the theological, spiritual, ceremonial and physical center of Judaism, the home of the Ark of the Covenant, the Urim and Thummim, the sacred fire, the Ten Commandments and Aaron's Rod from 960 BCE until it was destroyed by the invading Babylonians on the 9th of Av, 586 BCE.

    The Second Temple was built in the same location. From its completion in 515 BCE until its destruction by the Romans on the 9th of Av, 70 CE, the Second Temple, like the First Temple, was revered as the actual House of God and therefore, the most sacred place in all Creation.

    According to Jewish tradition, the Temple Mount will one day be fully restored in the form of The Third Temple.

    Many Christians share this belief. Because many significant events in the Gospels take place in the Second Temple, Christians believe this to be among the most sacred locations in the world. Many believe the rebuilt Temple is one essential pre-condition for Jesus' return. This belief may not be as respectful of Judaism as one would like, but it IS a sincere expression of awe and reverence for the Third Temple.

    Islam also has centuries of faith and history invested in the Temple Mount. It is revered by Muslims as the third holiest site in the world (The first is the Mosque in Mecca, the second is the Mosque in Medina). Ever since 700CE, the Masjid Al-Aqsa has been standing at the site, in one form or another.

    Now, the problem is relatively simple. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all recognize the Temple Mount is a sacred site, and each faith claims a sacred bond to its purpose. But each believes its own bond is far more sacred and therefore, exclusive, of the other faiths' bonds. That exclusivity prevents Humanity from fully realizing its unity.

    I understand it is a challenge to imagine this, but . . .

    Until that delusion of disunity is actually dispelled, the Temple cannot be built.

    Until the faiths realize the Holy Unity that they each claim as their source, the Temple cannot stand.

    But, as soon as all people of faith realize their Judaism, their Christianity, their Islam, their Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh, Taoist, Rastafarian, Shinto, Shaman Faith is actually their connection to the Transcendent Unity of God and Humanity that exceeds all imagination, then the Temple will go up and will stand far longer than any span of human years.

    Therefore, the Third Temple's very existence will be an expression of Humanity's realization of our Unity with God.

    The Temple represents all of our highest ideals.

    The Temple is all of our highest ideals realized.

    And of course, God will transcend even this.

    Peace and Love
     
  12. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Oh look! A youtube link, with a few words by racist Noam Federman.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsicqcNdJM&NR=1

    Towards the end, you'll see I'm not the only one comparing this to Islamic terrorism. Jewish terrorism sucks just as badly.



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  13. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    questing400 Senior Member

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    Dude, I know when you were growing up they said the messiah was some peace loving hippie who loves everyone and everything. And I'm sure your little intellect ate that up.

    But the Rambam, the main codifier of Jewish law is clear - Messiah will be a mighty warrior and he will fight the wars of G-d.

    Sorry this isn't how your boy Luke or whatever drew it up for you.

    Now, keep in mind if he dies before he builds the Temple on its spot and we usher in an era of world peace and an end of economic disparity, he was not the one. Just someone who had the potential to be the one.

    But again, at no point does Jewish law conform to United States political correctness. Hey, at no point does reality conform to that as well - but who cares about reality?

    Not you, Xexon. Clearly not you. Everyone is equal, American money has something to do with the last 60 years, etc. And the hits just keep on coming from our boy from down south. Although I see you moved...
     
  15. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    When you say world peace...


    does that mean you are going to dominate everyone?


    What is so special about this temple, anyways?
     
  16. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    Dominance? Is that all the understanding you can be "bothered" with?

    Well then, I think I understand. Drew, it appears the issue for you is Domination versus Passivity.

    Please read post #51. I put some effort into writing it. But, if you are too passive to read it then you shouldn't be surprised if most others seem dominant to you.

    Peace and Love
     
  17. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    I still dont understand exactly how this isnt an attempt to take over the world.



    Everything you say points to a one world government.


    Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
  18. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Exactly.

    I don't want to live under a one world government run by people who don't care about their fellow man.

    Zionists only care if you're a zionist. Radical orthodox Jews only care if you're one of them.

    Everybody else can apparently go to hell.

    6 billion+ of us.

    Me thinks you're outnumbered.



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  19. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    World Peace is not the same thing as "taking over the world."

    Would that be a bad thing? I mean, yours may be an unfounded fear in the first place, given the improbability of the collective enlightenment that would have to occur, the universal human culture that would have to develop and be accepted before a one-world government could happen.

    I think someday, if we survive this long period of disunity and anything-but-world-peace, there probably will be a one world government, a unified Humanity, if you will. It probably won't look like anything you or I imagine. I would like to think it would mean an enlightened world in some form of truly creative harmony.

    I agree with you. Power should only be granted to those with no desire for power. But, of course, we aren't talking about power.

    Peace and Love
     
  20. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Power is exactly what we are talking about.
     

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