Not going to vote?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Deleted member 50876, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    you and i both know you are correct when you say that these people ARE taking advantage of the unknowing, but i believe it is due to a certain breed of ignorance on their part, too. the elite are afraid that if they relinquish control, they will lose their money and power. they are unable to see that changing their ways will raise the status quo for everyone, including themselves. they think there isn't "enough to go around" when there really is. i think the problem lies mostly in our education system, which creates false consciousness and class conditioning. and of course, students are the greatest victims of the bank system. it's ridiculous and counter-productive.

    anyway, this is why i feel the need to vote. i think this problem has an obvious solution and i feel as though my candidate is the one least likely to ignore it. call him a puppet, because he is one, but i believe that it is at least a step in the right direction, so i will vote, not because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but because at this point, it is the only thing i can do, since i am not content with doing nothing.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Power is the key word here. The ones at the top really do not care about money, as they have the ability to print this money out of nothing and thus determine its value. In other words, they have all the money in the world. But what is money exactly? It's really nothing more than digits on a computer or green pieces of paper that only have figurative value because the people in control of the banking system say that it does. These people already own most of the world in hard assets. Money is really like a magic trick to them. It's a means to their end (or perhaps our end). It's how they exercise their control over the people under a system of debt creation, where governments and people alike are made subservient to this fiat system.
     
  3. Ugh, the truth makes me so sick...
     
  4. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    :puke:
    it is depressing. but here's to three of us who know the truth and who are going to make a difference.... right? right?
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You would be surprised how many people are beginning to wake up. This gives me some hope.
     
  6. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    people you wouldn't expect to, either. that's what excites me.
     
  7. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    don't worry peeps, when i'm in power i will forget all of you
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I think most people have to see it for themselves in order to really believe anybody's theory. I find that I have to have at least some kind of experience and grasp of common-hood with theories in order to understand them and relate what they mean before I can really analyze them.

    It's difficult to analyze certain elitist great and powerful Jewish Conspiracy Theories when there is no basehood to relate to people when it's all based smoke and mirror symbols, hidden messages, secrets and wild accusatory statements of paranoia.

    Not that that's what all conspiracy theorists believe, but sometimes they want to believe all to readily very outlandish and misguided facts that do not equate to sensible and truthful theories.

    But alas, I'm generalizing so much tonight that I'd rather get demoted.
     
  9. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    I agree with your last part and while you and I may not be entirely on the same side of the argument I think you expressed yourself well.

    First I think that doing nothing only further empowers the elite- so whether one's vote is for the other corporate shill, a non-viable third party candidate, one should certainly become as much a part of the process as practicable. And now to the color coded bold points and my responses...
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    Yes- and the unknowing includes more people than you give credit for. Business law and financial policy is kept deliberately garbled so a regular person would need an advanced degree in order to decipher it in a meaningful way.

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    It's not an inability to see the effect of changing things to help the little guy get by- it's a lack of any concern for the little guy beyond propping him up just enough to harvest the money from the money farm that as a whole, the working poor is looked as as being. The very rich who got their wealth the hard way didn't do so by being compassionate and those who inherited their fortunes couldn't possibly identify or care less about the plight of the person struggling to make ends meet.

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    To some degree yes... the education system is designed to churn out obedient little consumers willing to perpetually chase illusions and wouldn't dare question the policies and actions of their elected officials.

    In short I really don't buy into the "they're out to get us" theory but I am confident that they couldn't care less whether the prices of basics takes food out of our mouths unless we make it worth something to them. The elites who make policy need to feel the urgency of their job being on the line if they don't do something. Part of that can happen in the voting booth.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Who said anything about Jewish conspiracy theories? You see, that is an establishment straw man/red herring tactic used to discredit and silence people who discuss real issues that often have NOTHING to do with Judaism or the Jewish people at all. Are there ignorant, uninformed people who think that "the Jews" are behind it all? Yes. Many of them serve to discredit those of us who talk about legitimate issues that have nothing to do with the Jewish people at all. I for one do not believe that Jews run the world, though there are Jews involved, as there are people of every other race, color, creed and national origin. To point the finger at any one group of people is to simply not have a clue regarding the big picture.

    Now I really don't understand this talk about "commonhood" with theories, whatever that means. But, in my opinion, I think the evidence is there for people who are open-minded enough and willing to take the time to do the research.

    Again, most people are comfortable believing what they have believed all their lives and do not want to look at anything that challenges their beliefs too much.
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Perhaps. I'm just stubborn and rebellious. I don't really like what anybody tries to tell me that which they say is fact or is true. I enjoy discovering it for myself. It gives me pleasure and I like to test theories out in my mind, to relate them to something that is common or familiar to what I already know in order to find a sure footed belief or knowledge in understanding them. That's what I mean by commonhood. It requires a certain amount of personal application and experience in order to fully accept a theory as being a truth or as fact for me.

    Everbody rejects theories, whether they reject them wholely or partially or sub-partially to suite their needs, people reject theories of Creationism, Communism, regressive taxations, political campaigns or even chemtrails all the time and repeatedly in many ways. It's usually because they fail to see a value in their application.

    And that's what I require to view for myself - a value or perspective of commonhood that I can build on and relate to its application in order to support it or reject it.

    (Allow me to mix metaphors and speak aloud in abstract)

    Do you ever wonder why we connect so many dots and yet fail to see the forest from the trees?

    I feel queer tonight. I need food like a crazy train and like everyone should try fillet mignon. I may hallucinate if I don't eat something soon. Hahaha, has anybody ever hallucinated when they were hungry?
     
  12. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    War, capital punishment, and economic imperialism (globalization)? :eek:
     
  13. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Im a convicted felon, so my right to vote has been revoked! :D
     
  14. chuckf2000

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    You're wrong. It will gaurantee mccain wins. Young people support obama and that is the Rom Paul base.
     
  15. irie irator

    irie irator Member

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    I was gunna vote but then i got high

    honestly im not votin cuz neither support legalizing my lifestyle
     
  16. lode

    lode Banned

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    I'm voting.

    There are obvious apparent differences between the major candidates.

    As cool as apathy is.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, one is relatively young and black. The other is old, crusty and white.
     
  18. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Voting for either status-quo party IS apathy. [​IMG]
     
  19. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    don't worry, i'm sure there will be a beastiality candidate eventually...
     
  20. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    LOL. Looks like we're all in the same shit storm. I think I may vote Liberal this election. :eek:
     

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