Obama picks zionist Jew as Chief of staff

Insulting people incurs Karmic debt and slows down your vibration rate, so you will not make the transition into fourth density, or your so-called "Garden of Eden."

 

I'll only correct you because it seems you want to become more educated at this point:

Within Orthodox Judaism, which comprises about 20 percent of the roughly 14 million Jews on this planet (read about 2.8 million people) the break down generally be as follows:

Satmer Chassidim - staunch opponents of Zionism (you have linked their website at least once - Torah Jews against Zionism or something)

Breslov/Lubavitch Chassidim - are happy a Jew can live their, but hate the State for being so violently secular and raping Orthodox Jews basic religious rites. There are buses on the Shabbath, a resuteraunt can sell pork porducts, etc.) Furthermore, the orthodox Jew is often times mocked and hated in the land of Israel.

(there are about 50 more smaller Chassidic sects, ie., Viznitz, Bobuv, Gerrer, etc) and by and large they are on the side of Breslov/Lubavitch.

Modoren Orthodox - This is the only sect within orthodox Judaism that saw (in 1948) the state as somehow part of the messiainc redemption. The Chassdidim laughed at this concept and stated clearly that when the messiah comes, it won't be the world (read UN) giving the land of Israel to the Jews, rather it will be G-d Himself.

Their proof was very simple - once the redemption fully unfolds, word peace develops as does an end to economic disparty (this is why we reject the one from Nazareth as messiah - only war folled his appearance).

What happened right after the British mandate expired and they flew back to their little island? A huge war (relatively huge considering the size of the population of the Jews at the time). Clearly, this had nothing to do with the messianic redemption and everything to do with the enourmous guilt complex of a "modern, educated, and civilized society" that once again had to address the famed, eternal Jewish problem.

Jews are not tolerated wherever they go. They are misunderstod, hated and often times the scapegoat for their hosting country's populace.

The only difference this time was the stupid pictures and vidoes that came out as they liberated the camps. Somehow, the gentile felt extra guilty this time (although you'll note it was only one small gentile sect that carried out Der Fueruer's Final Solution.)

Historically, it was just a bad move all around, in my opinion. Hertzl was at one point offered Madasgcar, or other places for his dream, but he refused (mainly because of internal pressure). I feel this would have been a much better option. You have to take away the religous undertones of a place if you want the Jews not to be hated.

We have been here for 3,320 years claiming proudly that G-d chose us to give the Torah to. When the 2nd and 3rd major monotheistic religions came around, they took this concept and grossly overstated it to mean that we feel we are the only of G-d's children or something like that. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Anyway, that's my two cents...

And yes, the Torah was only given for peace and Thou shall not murder was one of the 10 commandments 3 million people heard at the mountain of Sinai.

 

I have never heard of the 4rd density. In Judaism, talk of the afterlife is by and large reserved for kaballah students. TO qualify, you need to be 40, married, and well versed in all the revealed aspects of Torah. I'll get there one day, but I'm only 31 - so not before 9 years or so.

It's never a good idea to insult anyone. Not in this world and not in the world to come.

If I insulted you, I apologize. I meant no harm and was perhaps responding to a comment that upset my sensitivities. I am admittedly overly sensitive but am working on it.

May G-d Almighty bless you in all that you do.

 

Just don't get to eager for "Eden" and start looking for vests to strap full of explosives. iggy: atriot: iggy:

 

I don't find this funny at all. The Bible is clear in its injunction not to kill!

Another thing I don't understand about the holy Quran is that it says "don't worry if you die fighting infidels (which is usually translated as Jew or X'ian) because you have 70 big breasted virgins in heaven awaitng you"

Okay, first off, a virgin has no concpet how to touch a man and she herself is not comfortable with her body. Why would I want 70?

Also, when I don't have a body, what's the point of a virgin? If I can't get an orgasm up there, believe you me - I have no desire to have "chit chat" with 70 girls. I'd rather the stupid "super bowl" or whatever than sit around ant talk about nail polish and clothes.

If there are any G-d fearing Muslims here, I sincerely ask for your interpration of these words (this quote is about 70- pages from the end in the main translated (English) version).

But let's please not make a joke about people who think it is actually holy to kill yourself or anyone else. This is the most digusting thing, in my life. We are supposed to live by the Torah, not die by it. In Judaism, the one of the wrst sins is suicide.

It is like you are rejecting the precious gift of life G-d has granted you. I know they often times feel trapped like they have no choice, but surely this isn't what G-d Himself wants His humans to be doing...

 

With all the flaws in there so called philosophy isn't it obvious that it makes no sense?

It's not real, none of it.

All religions are just the creation of man, they are used to control people through fear of damnation.

Will the real god please stand up?

God was made by man.

 

Or man was made by G-d. Either way, I won't know for sure until I die. And I find that strangely romantic...

I'm a big believer in Pascal's wager. Even if there no G-d, Judaism has only enriched my life by inspiring me to get as much accomplished as possible.

I never would have finished my 317 page self help book if I wasn't orthodox.

Still trying to get it published, but that's for another thread...

 

damn you're dense...

 

Okay, pal. Way to judge a total stranger. That's really hip of you, friend. How about go enjoy your little life and leave me alone with your insults, you antisemite. Does it make you feel better about your pathetic life to insult me?

And how about saying that to my face? I can drive into the city whenever you want...

 

So, just because he judged you on the internet makes him an anti-semite?



And, do you normally threaten 17 year olds?

 

A) I never threatned this person. My point is that people tend to be much more senstive to other people in person.

On this faceless forum, you really the worse side of people. There are a lot of internet bullies who appear so tough and then in person they are sweet people.

What threat are you referring to?

Also, yes, I have already admitted I am overly sensitive. I am working on it. but how is it hip to judge me as dense based on 4 words that wrote on this website. I'm 31 years old and have been through quite a lot in my life. Sorry if that was too harsh.

Anyway, just to show you how serious the Orthodox are about the stance against zionism, take a look at this from ynet:

Neturei Karta: Chabad punished for alliance with Zionists


Article published in anti-Zionist faction's leaflet says Chabad's 'collaboration' with secular Israelis led to Mumbai terror attack

Kobi Nahshoni Published: 12.15.08, 11:45 / Israel Jewish Scene




An article published this weekend in a leaflet distributed by anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox stream Neturei Karta asserted that the terror attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai was a punishment from G-d for the organization's collaboration with Zionist Israelis.




Six Jews were killed in the attack three weeks ago, including the two Chabad emissaries to the Indian city. Chabad Houses around the world serve as community centers for Jews regardless of the degree of their religious observance.



According to the article, Chabad was rightfully punished for its relations with "the filthy, deplorable traitors – the cursed Zionists that are your friends."



The writer went on to slam the Hasidic group for inviting to the emissaries' funeral "villainous heads of state who uttered words of heresy and blasphemy."



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Chabad itself was imbued with "false national sentiment," the article said, and the organization's centers around the globe hosted religious Jews alongside secular ones without making any distinction "between good and evil, right and wrong, pure and impure, a Jew and a convert, a believer and a heretic."



The conclusion, according to the writer, was that "the road you (Chabad) have taken is the road of death and it leads to doom, assimilation and the uprooting of the Torah."

Now mind you Chabad is not zionist at all! they simply are happy that the Jews of this generation (since '48) can live there if they please. Imagine what these guys would say if a modern orthodox shul was attacked!

I don't like these kinds of comments, but I thought you might learn something from it.

 

good lord you are self righteous....
I was stating you are dense. would I say it to you in reality? not unless you give me a reason to. it's an unbiased observation.

you are very dense

I didn't say that you were dense because you don't buy the so called zionist conspiracy....it is simply because you are so consumed by your beliefs.

 

Dude - please look up the definition of dense before you further put your foot in your mouth. Dense does not mean consumed by your beliefs.

Here's a little tool for you, friend.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dense

Get your English in order. Otherwise, it's easy to insult people unwittingly. While I would mind being called dense a little, I have no problem being told I am consumed by my beliefs.

I know who I am and what I belief, capeche?

 

dense   /dɛns/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [dens] Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective, dens⋅er, dens⋅est. 1.having the component parts closely compacted together; crowded or compact: a dense forest; dense population. 2.stupid; slow-witted; dull.3.intense; extreme: dense ignorance. 4.relatively opaque; transmitting little light, as a photographic negative, optical glass, or color.5.difficult to understand or follow because of being closely packed with ideas or complexities of style: a dense philosophical essay. 6.Mathematics. of or pertaining to a subset of a topological space in which every neighborhood of every point in the space contains at least one point of the subset.

 

After thanking a man for insulting you point blank; sorry mate, that shoe fits.

 

You realize you just proved yourself wrong, right? In his words "I didn't say that you were dense because you don't buy the so called zionist conspiracy....it is simply because you are so consumed by your beliefs." And you highlight the definition of the word that means stupid? Wow, dude - time to put the pipe down for a while...

 

I guess it takes one to know one, hey Czar Nikalaus?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X94YffpUryo



You should really consider watching this video.

 

use your imagination, and realize that not all the answers lie in books; Dictionary's and Holy Book's alike.
dense is a way of expressing that you are "hard to get through", like a dense object may be...distracted, if you will.

obviously, dense does not mean consumed by beliefs...you seem to have issues with reading comprehension as somebody already pointed out.

in this particular case, your so called density a infact a result of your consumption with your beliefs, not the definition of it.

good luck with your brain

 

... beliefs EH!?

You know for a chap who claims to be a man of God, let me tell you something. I have been watching you rant for a few weeks now and I see pattern forming in your posts. It's always the same with you. My land, my god, my country, my ancestors with strong religious zeal ... and then it's the on slaught of your money, your power, your greed, your pride.

Have you ever heard of the words WE and OUR.

As in

WE need to understand one another.
WE need to relate to one another
WE need to agree to disagree.
WE need to forgive love and accept.
WE need to live and let live.

You will note that I for one have not argued with much of your posts on greed in capitalist North America. The celibrity over paid and so forth.

Geez I wonder ... why? Maybe because I AGREE

This is a CONSPIRACY thread. I'd say the majority of us are ANTI- all the bullshit that you are parading as our core beliefs.

SO I suggest we all sit back, chillax, and get back to the task at hand which is sticking it to the man.

Peace All.