Obama's war crimes

Your are just being ridiculous now.

 

I'm not.
That is how you seem to feel about Iraq/Afghanistan.
Why is it a stretch to think people didn't use those arguments and think that way about WWII...?

 

Because Germany invaded us.

Our response to that situation was wholly justified.

 

When did Germany invade us before we declared war?

31 August 1939 Germany invades Poland and annexes Danzig; Britain and France give Hitler ultimatum (Sept. 1), declare war (Sept. 3).

 

It would be fair to ask, there were terrorists hiding there, and Saudi Arabia has been arresting or killing them. I think it is fair to ask why you don't know any of this? Its hardly a secret.

But "we" do ask this, and there are answers, its just that you aren't really interested since the question is mostly rhetorical.

They weren't, this is a myth that was proven wrong many years ago.

But you are asking questions that were answered many years ago. You can't possibly be that interested in the answers or you would have found them by now.

 

Funny, I must have missed that. I was busy hearing all the time about how Saddam Hussein was harbouring terrorists and WMDs, and about how Iran are developing nuclear weapons. I must have missed all those news reports on the great job the Saudi boys are doing to fight the bad terrorists.

I'm interested, I think, it's just that you've completely lost me there, I have no idea what question you are on about.

Great, then you will be able to provide me with a reference to that proof.

So all I need to do to get the answer to that question is be really focused on finding out, and the answer will just come to me? Alright then, I'll get on the blower to the pentagon first thing tomorrow and see what they say. I'll let you know.

 

Well you tell me, how did you miss it? Its not exactly back page news.

So you can't think of any way except to call the Pentagon yourself?

I put "bin laden flight" into google and the first five links cover this myth (that took a few seconds of effort. Yet you pretend that there is no way you could have figured it out yourself in the years since this myth came out. Why?

As I tried to say before, the reason you don't find out if these things are true is because you want them to be true. Why put effort into finding truth that you might not like?

 

Ok clearly we are not going to agree on the war in afghanistan, so may I suggest this. That until we all agree on it, we should call a cease fire. I am involuntarily funding this violence after all, and I'm suppose to be a pacifist.

 

I think this is the key reason we will not agree.
I respect pascifism...
I just don't understand pacifists arguing with none pacifists, in the manner you do.
Your attempting to dismiss things and create a reality that isn't quite true.
When, imo, you should be talking about how to bring about some peace.
Not arguing the toss about the intricacies of this and that...when clearly you probably will never agree with us.

Just so you can't say I didn't try:


Terrorism in Saudi Arabia

2005
Saudi security forces made a great deal of successes against insurgents. Many militants were captured and several killed, many by American forces in Iraq. One of these, Saleh al-Oufi, who was killed on August 18.
On December 28, Saudi security services killed Abdul Rahman Al-Suwailemi and Abdul Rahman ibn Salen Al-Miteb in separate incidents. In the morning, Al-Miteb was stopped by two policemen and opened fire, killing both. This set off a running firefight, during which three other policemen were killed. Automatic weapons, grenades, forged documents, and almost half a million riyals in cash were also seized.
Despite these successes, foreign governments still have travel warnings in effect for Saudi Arabia.

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Insurgency-in-Saudi-Arabia

Saudi Arabia: Security Forces Arrest 5 Suspected Al Qaeda Militants
July 10, 2009 1621 GMT
Saudi security forces have arrested five men in Taif suspected of being low-level al Qaeda operatives...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-143153083.html

Ministry of Defense and Aviation, official website
Royal Saudi Land Forces, official website
Saudi Arabian National Guard, official website
Strategic Missiles Force, official website
General Intelligence Presidency, official website

The Bin Laden flights

At least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, left the United States on a chartered flight eight days after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a passenger manifest released on July 21, 2004. The passenger list was made public by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), who obtained the manifest from officials at Boston's Logan International Airport. None of the flights, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of Sept. 13 and the 9/11 Commission found ""no evidence of a political intervention".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family#The_Bin_Laden_flights

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

I'm sure you will say: "The 9/11 commission was a whitewash."
If you do...I and I am sure others can't provide any more evidence.
To be fair, I wasn't 100% sure about this...that is why I mentioned the possible reasons they were put on flights.
It is nice to update my information from time to time.


It truly isn't difficult to find this information.