Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

I guess it's good that your approval isn't important to me.

 

There is plenty of blame to go around, but the root of the problem goes back to supply side economics and the increasing wage gap that leads to ever increasing government/consumer debt. Instead of correcting this problem the government encouraged more borrowing by lowering interest rates way too much leading to the housing bubble.

 

that's more the consequence rather than the cause.

 

people fear what they don't understand

but there's no need being rude.

i'm not even disagreeing with you - merely stating you're opinion is too one sided.

 

I'm all for them. I just hope they don't get violent.

 

I don't find your dismissive manner in characterizing my post as "useless" as being exactly polite. I have acknowledged the general public's- particularly that of the folks who signed on to the sub prime mortgages... because they clearly were short in their responsibility to know what they were signing. As for the rest of the public- we were too goddamned busy trying to eke out a living to have done the research necessary to uncover the toxic mortgage scheme as it was happening.

Frankly there's no need for rudeness on your part either.

 

yes

 

glad you see my point.

 

sorry if you feel i was being rude

it wasn't intended.

 

Most home buyers werent being foolish or greedy when they bought overpriced houses. They were following the 'american dream'. Don't forget gas prices going up to $4.00 a gallon tipped the housing bubble over the edge. Also, the nightmare of NAFTA was maturing. I think the Bush regime knew or planned for this to fall to the next president.

 

this is definitively speaking

what stupid would do.

 

i cannot afford a porsche

the most stupid thing to do is to somehow purchase one

because i have always dreamt of doing so.

 

I can accept that. I may not be as informed as some think I should be but part of the problem as I see it is the murkiness of government business and the fact that it is the corporate owned media that delivers what's seen as news to most. Frankly it's remarkable that people are becoming vocal considering the amount of effort is made to keep them in the dark.

My passions will run high and I may not have as many facts to support my convictions as I'd like but I will hold them nonetheless.

I had made my acknowledgements prior to you making your point.

 

i always think of something i heard in a movie once

somebody said something along the lines of 'don't get angry now... beat them on the field'

or words to that effect anyways.

regardless - the point is even though we must fight for truth

fighting i believe will not equate success

the consumer is the heart that beats the blood money

around that the ugly beast that is the financial sector.

i say less fighting and instead people - in unison

take more responsibility with their financing.

take the power back.

i must have missed it somehow.

my apologies once more.

 

the mighty ducks...

 

the problem is im on the fence on this.i can agree with some things on both sides but niether side has really given me anything to decide wich way to go.

you say your protesting the system.ok i get that.but what is it your trying to change and how do you plan to do it?and be realistic.

the school loans?you know that aint gonna happen.but the other side wont even consider cutting the debts in half atleast.

the other side is part of the 99% they have different views.but you need to get both sides together here.if you cant get everybody together the system will win again

 

Either side of what? If both sides you are talking about are in the 99%, what does it matter if you agree whole heartedly with either? Do you not find common ground with both?

From your perspective, it should be whether or not you can get along with both sides that you see (there are many many many more 'sides' then two involved in this)....

That is not, can you agree with everything that everyone says, or even what half of them say, or even if you can't agree on anything other then the disparity between those who control most of the money/power in the world, and those who don't isn't right.

If you have views that aren't being represented, then go to one of the occupations and speak at a general assembly.

THAT, is the whole point of it all... Each person being able to step up and offer their views on it.

 

I would like to see less corporate influence in our political system, how to do this is what these general assemblies are all about. Like I said they are the forum in which we express our concerns and ideas to solve them. Mass boycotts of companies that outsource and take advantage of workers is one idea that is out there that I think would be very powerful. There are solutions but they first must get out into public discussion before they can be acted on. As far as sides we do not recognize right or left, we are all in this together, even if some can not see it.

 

This day in age, I don't believe anything is grassroots. With social media and the like, it's especially easy to manipulate people and take over an entire movement so that it appears to be grassroots but isn't.

And why would they care about people protesting, especially when, for the most part, real issues are not even being brought up? They would rather create an outlet for people to let off steam which can be steered and controlled by them, versus allow for a REAL bipartisan, non-political uprising that would not be as easy to gain control of.

Again, look at the Tea Party. That started off as a non-politcal, non-partisan protest against the government. I would say the teabaggers were bringing up more relevant issues than the OWS protesters who only know how to spew tired cliches like "capitalism is bad" and "greed is evil." Then the Tea Party was more or less completely taken over by the Republican Party and other big money interests. The same thing is now occurring with the OWS protests, except instead of being funded by the Koch Brothers, they're being funded by elitist George Soros.

Also, thanks for the personal attacks. Yeah, I know I am pathetic for not sharing your views.

 

Oh, now Obama is supporting the protesters and embracing the "99%" term, which is just hilarious.

http://www.businessinsider.com/whit...a-is-fighting-for-interests-of-the-99-2011-10

I am sure Obama loves these protests because it focuses attention off him and the government, and on to the corporations and banks, when in fact the government and corporations/banks exist as one single entity. Obama would be nothing if it wasn't for the crooks on Wall Street and their blood money funding his campaign.