Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

Please, let's keep this factual.

This is a direct quote from the page you cited:

"Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted)
Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (10 days ago) by anonymous

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

 

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/05/news/economy/bank_of_america_moynihan/

 

I don't think it's wrong to say that they have the right to make a profit. In fact they must make a profit in order to keep working. They are the only ones that are able to lend more money to the government.

The problem is that right now almost all the banks are in trouble. Everybody, including governments are looking for ways to get their hands on more money.

And it's gonna be the man on the street who will have to pay for it.

Maybe in 5 years time the western world will be a chinese-owned corporation.

 

See... I'm one of those funny type of people who think that only living things have inherent rights.

To say a company has any 'inherent right' is to allow the problems we now face.

 

The problem is that they are already making a nice profit, they are, as usual, being greedy and demanding more profit at the peoples expence. This is basicly why this movement started.

 

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You have to understand that this is not about people wanting " others wealth " . You have to understand that what has been done here to America , is not only criminal but tyrannous . These banking cartels are global criminals !

This is about the systematic looting of America from within , for greed and profit by the elite rich . It's about the destruction of the American industrial base . It's about evil corporations being given the same rights as citizens . It's about the elite declaring class warfare and systematically wiping
out the middle class . And dictating their terms to a corrupt government .

The link you posted is nothing more than disinformation , and it says so at the top . Even though it's not FACTUAL , I think it's pretty good , except for demand number nine .

I think you also took they living wage even though you're not working out of context . Even though it's not FACTUAL , I think what it was saying is a living wage for everyone . The same for like an electrician and a convenience store clerk . Not getting paid for doing nothing , having no job .

EVERYONE WHO LABORS FOR A LIVING DESERVES A LIVING WAGE !

 

Yes, corporate execs get rich off the labor of thousands. Those rich provide those thousands with jobs. Many of those workers will work their way up into management and eventually earn salaries of 100k+. Most won't, but many will. Some will even become millionaires. That is what America is about, having the opportunity to start out small, and work your way up. Most of the rich people have earned their millions ethically and legally, and yes I support them. You've worked your way up and become a gazillionaire, GOOD JOB!!! You were born to a gazillionaire and never have to work, YOU LUCKY BASTARD!! Yes, a good economy means the rich get richer, but the working man is better off as well. A widening salary gap is not a bad thing, if everybody is doing better off. This tearing down of wall street and redistribution of wealth may close the salary gap, but while bringing down the rich guy, it also hurts the little guy.

As for those that are losing their homes, well it has been proven that many of those homes that were foreclosed upon never should have been sold to those people in the first place. Starting with Jimmy Carter's CRA, which continued under Clinton and culminated with Frank's meddling with Fannie Mae, many people bought more house than they could afford and then when they couldn't make their payments they got kicked out. This is not the fault of Wall Street. People starving? Also not the fault of Wall Street. Someone making minimum wage at Wal-mart or McDonald's does not provide enough service to warrant paying them more. Simple as that, the free market has determined the rate at which that person should get paid. If they want more money, they need to get a better job. Sometimes that requires going back to school to get an education and that can be hard if someone has kids. But the federal government should not be responsible for taking care of people who don't have the sense to not have kids they can't afford.

What about the people that make money through the rich guy's opulent spending. The guy that installed the carpet in the yacht or manufactured the propeller or sold the yacht, or transported the marine paint to the store where somebody had to sell the paint to somebody else who had to paint the yacht. Somebody had to build his house, dig and install the pool, do the landscaping, clean the house and drive his car. There are guys at the port that unload his Bentley from the ship and others that work at the dealership, as well as those that work in marketing those cars. Maybe the guy drives a BMW built in South Carolina or a Mercedes built in Alabama. Those people have jobs. Meanwhile, this guy has his millions in a bank account in Switzerland, but if we lowered taxes he could bring that money back here to the USA, put it in a bank here and then that bank can lend it to some small start up Pizza Parlor or Barber Shop down on Main Street.

Now, a lot of yachts (as well as many other things) are built overseas, especially after Clinton put a special tax on all boats over $100K. So let's look at say Trinity which I think are built in Mississippi or Viking which I think are built in New Jersey. So, those are America workers getting paid good money manufacturing huge luxury yachts for the mega rich. Confiscate the money from those mega rich, and they will buy a smaller boat or none at all. Then some of those blue collar workers, whom you claim to support, will get laid off or have to work less hours.

Here's what I don't understand about OWS and lilberalism in general; Everybody is mad about the greedy corporate types, what about the greedy government bureaucrats. Greedy government bureaucrats are MUCH more insidious and dangerous that corporate businessmen. Why is it believed that everything the government does is good, when everything they touch gets screwed up? They are not fair, compassionate and efficient. The only reason Obama wants the super rich to pay more is because he is greedy and wants more money. The rich already pay more than their fair share, and the bottom 47% pay nothing at all.

 

Ah yes, again with the divisionary stuff...

The 1% represents the top. That includes some who are politicians, some who are businessmen, some who are completely unkown to the majority...

While some may think that this can be laid all at the feet of businessmen, and others may think it can be laid at the feet of politicians, and yet some others try to lay it at the feet of the starving, some see it as a systemic problem with the way our society is set up in the first place.

That there are those in the bottom that support those at the top, just shows how well the spin is abosrbed.

 

nearly missed this snippet... it is two days old, but an important win and worth a mention here...

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/4/press_freedom_victory_democracy_now_wins

btw... does anyone know where i can get reliable info on what is going on in the way of protests in support of OWS etc? or point me in the right direction?... all i can find are live feeds and websites that speak of the US only... i heard it is going global, but that's it... can't seem to find out anymore...

 

if im not mistaken,. the people out number the cops 20 to 1... Whats the problem with taking a couple of pig hostages?

 

As for those that are losing their homes, well it has been proven that many of those homes that were foreclosed upon never should have been sold to those people in the first place. Starting with Jimmy Carter's CRA, which continued under Clinton and culminated with Frank's meddling with Fannie Mae, many people bought more house than they could afford and then when they couldn't make their payments they got kicked out. This is not the fault of Wall Street. People starving? Also not the fault of Wall Street. Someone making minimum wage at Wal-mart or McDonald's does not provide enough service to warrant paying them more. Simple as that, the free market has determined the rate at which that person should get paid. If they want more money, they need to get a better job. Sometimes that requires going back to school to get an education and that can be hard if someone has kids. But the federal government should not be responsible for taking care of people who don't have the sense to not have kids they can't afford.

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Yes and WHO backed those home loans , that they KNEW , were bad debt and too risky for small banks . Wall street that's who .WHO then bundled them together and sold them to sucker investors . They KNEW the housing market was bad debt , but they also know they couldn't fail . Then had the balls to ask for corporate welfare from bailouts . But I guess your okay with that too . As long as it's not poor liberal "citizens" right ? It seems to be all about politics with you . You mention Carter and , but why not Bush and N.A.F.T.A. ? One of the biggest crimes ever pushed on America , other than the I.R.S. , Federal reserve , and the U.N. . What about Reagan ? And his polices to deregulate the banking system ? They're all crooks dem and rep .
Don't you see that ?

Then you mention " Walmart " and " McDonald's" . Where the Hell are these people supposed to work ? Middle class paying living wage jobs in manufacturing ARE ALL GONE , so is the middle class . To many these low paying service industry jobs , or the military is now the only option to them. Is that just ? Is that right ? Hell they don't even come close to paying a living wage ! Maybe they should all just die , huh ? In your mentality they are just surplus eaters anyway right ? Just a burden on society right ?

 

Because there is no going back after that happens, it would instantly become a violent revolution which would get crushed.

The way it is now, they just sit there and grow in numbers, until something changes... either that changes are made (I have no clue what it would take to end this however), the ptb decide the pr recieved from crushing it will be less then the ongoing pr... or the people on the ground lose patience do something like that anyway.

 

i can answer my own question... just found this... always the way... asking for the salt, honey, condoms, fork-lift trucks, in a shop and it's always right next to you yes? arf...

this is a useful link... http://www.ustream.tv/occupytogether

 

They keep changing things to try to better organize.

http://www.occupytogether.org/actions/

meetup is now the way to go apparently.

 

Ohhhh.... I haven't looked at the global revolution feed all day today, but I did watch the two hour billing of Led Zeppelin on cable for the heaven connection idea (right?... too bad) about "life per hope"; is synchronicity transcendent or immanent. I know, I know; the liberals want the honest impressionism.

 

This has nothing to do with wanting someone else's wealth. Thats a fallacy; its manipulating the entire argument and cause into something its not.

Its about the fact that the American taxpayers paid hundreds of billions of dollars to bail these huge banks out. Conservatives want to rail against socialism, but the entire tax paying system in America is now centered around CORPORATE socialism.

As a tax payer, I want my fucking money back.

Amongst other reasons.

 

This blog is amazing. I am nearly in tears reading some of these stories.

I'm really lucky compared to most of these people. It can't possibly be a good thing that I'm one of the lucky ones. I am broke, I work a dead end job I despise, I can't afford to go back to school, I struggle every day to feed myself...and yet I'm one of the lucky ones.

 

On the other side of the coin, for working efforts would by a stock on the stock market which is expanded for more employment available. I don't mean off the statistics or the understanding that the 'jolt' is possible for honest and true job creation, but that the facts of growth have a believable feeling for trend in the economy of manufactured progress.

Apple isn't very good no, is it? Maybe some oil companies exploring in the Gulf; maybe a human capital company like Hummingbird, or maybe General Electric.

 

Journalist Luke Rudkowski was attacked by police Wednesday night while trying to document the Occupy Wall Street arrests in NY.

(I think this video shows more clearly than any other I've seen just how ape shit the cops went.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YXuvhg8Ahw&feature=player_embedded"]

 

This is getting closer. Let's not just occupy wall street, or even america.

Let's Occupy Earth.