Official Bible Interpretation Thread

Personally I prefer this translation;

Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.

It seems to make the scripture easier to understand.

 

This is the crux perhaps. If the bible interprets itself, why then do so many take different interpretations from it? Who's interpretation is correct and who's incorrect?





I came back and edited this post after about 20 minutes, removing a section that, on reflection, seemed would be more divisive than is useful.

 

Which verson of 'the bible' has that translation?

 

"He has no spirit who seeks spirit."

 

This is what the Catholic Encyclopaedia has to say:

The word poor seems to represent an Aramaic 'ányâ (Hebrew 'anî), bent down, afflicted, miserable, poor; while meek is rather a synonym from the same root, 'ánwan (Hebrew 'ánaw), bending oneself down, humble, meek, gentle. Some scholars would attach to the former word also the sense of humility; others think of "beggars before God" humbly acknowledging their need of Divine help. But the opposition of "rich" (Luke 6:24) points especially to the common and obvious meaning, which, however, ought not to be confined to economical need and distress, but may comprehend the whole of the painful condition of the poor: their low estate, their social dependence, their defenceless exposure to injustice from the rich and the mighty. Besides the Lord's blessing, the promise of the heavenly kingdom is not bestowed on the actual external condition of such poverty. The blessed ones are the poor "in spirit", who by their free will are ready to bear for God's sake this painful and humble condition, even though at present they be actually rich and happy; while on the other hand, the really poor man may fall short of this poverty "in spirit".


I think this is quite excellent.

 

The hardest thing I discovered, is to really love everybody, not for what they do, but just for what they are. If you try out, you'll find out, that without some help (Jesus), you won't get even close.
I like this thread because discussing and communicating this verses is something really interesting and more people should talk more about meaningful things, to get to know what the others think.

One of my favorite verses at the time:

Revelation of John, Chapter 8, Verse 8:

"The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,"

It lets me think of the Gulf of Mexico catastroph.

 

Yes people have given many differing interpretations of the bible but since God is a God of order not disorder, doesn't it make sense that the Bible should have only one correct interpretation?

So the Bible is arranged in such a way that if the whole Bible is taken into consideration, its understanding is not open to interpretation.

 

The New World Translation, which is what I use for most of my Bible quotes.

 

I'm wondering, if we should cross reference sayings within the bible against similar sayings in the bible, should we not also cross reference translations to get the "big picture"

 

No it does not make sense. The order of human beings is diversity. Using that reasoning it does not make sense that if god is a god of order for people to be different sizes.

Ahem.

 

What in the world, people of different sizes means that God is not a God of order?

I'm sorry you're going to have to explain that better, because right now, that sounds like the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Yes?

 

Personally, I often check several translations.

 

Yes I know salt is a preservative. Perhaps that is why one passage refers to the uselessness of salt if it has no flavor

God comes in the blink of an eye, taking no time. The holy spirit speaks as loudly as we are willing to listen. The very instant that the dream of separation began the remedy was given.

Our differing views on prophecy come form different orders of things. From my perspective I see the timelessness of god so prophecy to me is simple stating what is. To me it is not about predicting the future. Jesus said that no sign would be given so how does the law offer proof?

As far as the other things you mention, protection, instruction, are subset of the heading, "for hardness of heart". Without mercy there is no natural empathy. People do not know how to treat each other.

I see it as Moses' solution to what he saw. Jesus said Moses allowed, because...

Again, we are to be alert for gods kingdom and avoid even the appearance of evil.
That hour is here for me as you have sought to protect people from my deceit.

You needn't beg. I am happy to answer questions. You are not a member of the community of god's children? Do you think you are not part of "our" relationship?

God does not have unholy relationships, do you?

It is an interpretation of, for one, the very scripture you quote. Where our treasure lies, there is our heart also.

I told you ahead of time, we have moved to other subjects. Don't take the statement as a personal attack. I am using the example of our exchange to demonstrate meaning and principle.

See, you wouldn't feel the need to use the sarcastic emoticon and be defensive if you were looking for understanding. My question to you was, do you understand?

 

Hi, don't often get to talk to you in real time, it makes sense. I have also compared the bible to other sacred scriptures.

 

God is a god of order. People of different sizes and different tastes, who live in remote and difficult to access areas, have wholly different governments and cultures, seems disorderly. So diversity is apparently part of the order. "There are many rooms in my fathers house."

 

so true, so true.

one of my favorite scriptures...
"There are many rooms in my fathers house."

Just the diversity of those contributors on this sub-forum (I guess it's called) reflect how through God diversity can be made into order.

 

As far as the many rooms, I'm only expecting a tiny room at the bottom of a many-storied house ( lol) - but I know, I'll be there.

 

Does appear that we move toward each other as we go along.

 

everytime....

 

Perhaps.

There is no "dream of separation".

Yes, differing views and that is why the prophecy of the Bible tells you nothing.

Again you take Jesus' word out of context, to serve your own purposes. Jesus actually said that; no sign would be given (to the ones he was talking to) accept the sign of Jonah. Which I believe comes from what was then called the law of Moses.

You seem to lump a lot under hardness of heart.

You seem to be saying the what Moses wrote was man's wisdom not God's, which seems to be how you feel the whole Bible except for the few parts you seem to like.

Why are you planning to kill someone as a service to God?

To get an apology from you it appears one has to beg.

So you say.

Yes, I believe that I am.

No, I don't believe that I am a part of "our" relationship.

Well it does depend on what you consider a relationship doesn't it?

Interestingly the Scripture I quoted says nothing about God's temple being the "devotional heart of man", it says God will walk among them not within them.

As for the scripture about where our treasure lies, there is our heart also; it doesn't equate as God's temple being the "devotional heart of man".

Others have you have not.

Oh that's nice to know, because it doesn't feel that way.

Oh, I understand alright and funny it is that very understanding that makes me feel like using the sarcastic emoticon.

As for being defensive; sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU (1 Peter 3:15) . . .