Official Bible Interpretation Thread

It would be helpful if you could explain this. At least to make clear how willing you are to discuss the matter.

 

Genesis 2:21 And the LORD god caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept.

After this is when Adam and Eve are cast out of the garden. After 2:21 there is no mention of Adam waking.

"Without mercy there is no natural empathy. People do not know how to treat each other."


If this isn't an idea of callous or hardness of heart perhaps OldWaterBrother you'd like to give your own interpretation, that is, your own subjective definition.

 

You mean perhaps it is open to interpretation?

How do you account for the deep sleep?

I didn't say it told me nothing.

Jesus is speaking to all of us. If there were proof there is no need for belief.
The words of Jesus have universal application. We are all the child of god and the pharisee, the sinner and the saint, the first man adam and the last man adam. My purpose is to do the will of god.

Where a mans treasure lies there is his heart also.

No, man wrote the bible, inspired though he may be, that inspiration still carries a diverse individuality.
[/QUOTE]Again, we are to be alert for gods kingdom and avoid even the appearance of evil.
That hour is here for me as you have sought to protect people from my deceit.[/QUOTE]

Your efforts at dramatic statement fall short. We protect through mercy.

To get the answer to a question all you need do is ask. Why do you feel you need an apology from me?

Do you think you are not part of "our" relationship? [/QUOTE]No, I don't believe that I am a part of "our" relationship.[/QUOTE]
If you believe that you are one of gods children and you think that you are not part of our relationship, does that mean you do not think I am one of those children?

Interesting how?

It is imagery. I am certain that others can see it.

Others can see, you do not.

I tell you the truth that when you judge you feel as though you are judged even when you in fact, are not. The measure we give is the measure we get.

Yours doesn't appear to be the funny type of sarcasm.

We master through love, mercy. Lay down your sword. Affirm the truth, don't honor the lie.

 

I wouldn't exactly call this order.

Also, I think that more so than referring to diversity in faiths, it is referring to the support from Christ to his disciples that he is not abandoning them. They has a fear that he would leave them and that would be the end of it.

This selection of verses is one of the strongest in terms of belief in an afterlife other than a glorified earthly life, but of a life in heaven in the very midst of God. In that, obedience and faith in Christ is the way to this place where Jesus went to prepare our mansions (rather than merely rooms).

John 14
[1]Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. [2] In my Father's house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you. [3] And if I shall go, and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and will take you to myself; that where I am, you also may be. [4] And whither I go you know, and the way you know. [5] Thomas saith to him: Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

[6] Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.

...

[15] If you love me, keep my commandments.


Also, why are you so sure of your attendance? Is not hope and trust, rather than knowledge, the best we can have?

 

Perhaps He has spoken to her in a way not spoken to you or I.

 

We are here in one cause and that cause is taking precedence if the eye is sound.

Certainly it applies in the way you describe. I regard these statements as having universal application. What I mean to say is they are applicable to every possible application. Jesus was quite skillful in formulating the message
by virtue of his communion with god. Not only does this apply to diverse faiths but diverse contributions to an individual faith. Some members are gifted one way and some another.

Why "other than?" On earth as it is in heaven. No one knows the hour of gods coming because it is not dependent on time but on invitation. For some it may happen in this life. The hour may be different for every man but with each everyone draws nearer to him.

The mustard seed grows till the birds of the air make their nests in its shade.
We heal the sick and feed the hungry. The measure we give is the measure we have.

 

Okay, Yes, there is nothing wrong with diversity, people of different sizes and different tastes, who live in remote and difficult to access areas and have wholly different cultures and there is nothing wrong with that. But the point is that God does not set up differing ways of worship that are diametrically opposed, that would not be something a God of order, who can not lie, would do.

 

Which diametrically opposed ways of worship are you referring to? Isn't all worship the desire to reach god?

 

I was talking about comparing translations of the Bible, not comparing the Bible to other "sacred scriptures", although I did that in the past and that is one reason why I came to believe that the Bible is the Word of God and those other "sacred scriptures" are not.

 

Simple, God made the Bible so it only has one correct interpretation.

 

Yes that is what the dope said and as I asked him, do you really want to get into this? He does not seem to want to go near it, so why would you want to discuss a topic that is not even your own?

The concept of hardness of heart is that of someone not allowing their heart to be softened. The Bible never describes mankind in general as being hardhearted but only that some are that way.

As for people not knowing how to treat each other, do you really believe that to be true?

 

What are the other reasons?

 

OWB, you may feel that there is only one correct interpreptation; but, I know theologians that can't even agree on certain scriptures - so who is to say which is the "correct interpretation"...I say our hearts, if sincere and open, can tell us.

Ukr-Cnd, with all of your knowledge and studies - do you not know of your own attendence? I have certainly had questions and things do cause me still, to wonder at "what's it all mean, Alfie?"...but for all intents and purposes for years now, I have known, as I said previously, where my soul will end up. I'm surprised you don't know also!
worldsofdarkblue, in more ways that you can know, you are absolutely right. In a still, quiet "voice" (no, I'm not mentally ill - lol), I have been reassured by Him - more than once.
And hey - I still feel, in our own way, this sub-forum has it's own order.

 

You've said that you consult many different bibles for different translations of verses. Have you ever come across a translation that you feel is wrong when compared to the others?

 

What I was saying if, as you like to do, we were to take just this one scripture out of the context of the Bible and were look at it as a stand alone then salt could be either a seasoning, a preservative or both.

God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam so he could remove the rib necessary for God to make Eve, Adam's bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh.

Okay.

No, at the time Jesus was talking to the scribes and Pharisees and was telling them that they would get no other sign but the sign of Jonah.

Yes that is what the Bible says but interestingly, it says nothing about God's temple.

Once again you show your lack of respect for the Bible.

That is what Jesus said , so are you saying that his dramatic statement falls short?

Oh, I don't need an apology from you but one would think that a true Christian would apologize when they "mistakenly" accuse someone of something they didn't do.

Well Jesus did say that there are some that have a father other than God.

Genesis 3:8 (King James Version)
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

In other words it's just something you made up. Interesting.

So you say.

Is that kind of the same feeling a person gets when they are actually being judged without having judged others?

Actually I seldom use that emoticon to show sarcasm.

If only you would.

 

Here are some more:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=371369&f=467

 

I would say that it is God, who is the one to say what is correct.

I just don't believe that God gave us a Book for our benefit that could just mean whatever we want it to mean. Personally, I believe that God made the Bible so it only has one correct "interpretation".

And yes, our hearts, if sincere and open, can help us but we need to be careful of trusting our hearts too much because the Bible says that they can mislead us.

 

If I had to pick one, I would say the King James Version, for one thing it has several spurious Scriptures that are not in the original language manuscripts but even with that being said I believe that the truth can be found using it as well.

 

Luke 14:34-35, "Salt is good; but if the salt has lost it's taste;
how shall it's saltiness be restored? It is fit for neither the land not the dunghill; men through it away. He who has ears to hear let him hear.
Have I misinterpreted the meaning of salt?

If we go to the trouble of saying a deep sleep fell over him then why not say, then he woke up? Because it has significant meaning.

For those who seek signs, no sign will be given. The words have universal application. We all wear all of these hats at one time or another, nothing is uncommon to man.

What's interesting about it. Do you find the idea offensive for some reason?

Quite frankly waterbrother you show a lack of respect regarding my testimony of the bible. I do not believe as you do regarding the qualities of the bible. I have made the commandments of Jesus the work of my life.

Jesus asked me if I was planing to kill someone?

What did I accuse you of waterbrother?

How is this verse qualify as Jesus saying that some have a father other than god? Jesus said call no man your father.

No, the measure you give is the measure you get. it is not what goes into a man that defiles him but what comes out. The only love we know is the love we give.

Does that mitigate the fact that you used it?

What unloving thing have I demonstrated?

 

Seems those are all intellectual reasons and other than distribution non of them differ from other scriptures. But actually I wasn't clear with my question, why did you choose christianity, not why do you believe the bible is the word of god.