Official Bible Interpretation Thread

Not really. I had only had them on for a month. Hadn't even turned them inside out yet.

 

I got the same message about my decayed teeth.

 

Just had all mine fixed. I'm so damn cute now,I can hardly stand to look at myself!

 

Too sexy for your mirror.

 

I bet that really took a bite out of your wallet. It's nice that you're enamaled with yourself now though. Good teeth can really polish one's appearence. Now you can brush up on your dating skills

 

Good one!!

 

I'm excommunicated.

 

Thankyou for your good thought for me - I need all I can get. Those who chastize you for your great faith do so in error.

 

If they won't talk to you I will.

 

Thanks, thedope. I like talking. Talking's good.

 

I've been over this before. What it is most likely Jesus is saying is that the kingdom is present there currently, not someplace somewhere else. Also, if what it should be translated as is "within", then it does not necessarily also follow that we have God in us. It could be that what he is saying is that we have the power to bring the kingdom of God to earth, the power of the kingdom is within us.

Jesus is answering Jews who ask him where the Kingdom is, and what he replies is that it is not something you can put a place on, but is a metaphysical destination where Good reigns and the love of God governs. Jesus had just healed a bunch of lepers--wouldn't that be an example of both these things?

Also, it could be argued that God's Kingdom is the entire universe, but it doesn't follow that God is literally within our metaphysical existence.

My point is that are criticizing the Church based on one scenerio where (presumably) Catholic teenagers are engaging in unprotected pre-marital sex and saying that the Church's ban on contraception is then dangerous because all of these people this one person is haing sex with is exposed possibly to STIs. The logic doesn't follow. If these people are not using condoms because the Church bans them, then whay are they having sex in the first place.

I am not calling those making the argument hypocrites, but those in the most likely hypothetical situations who may or not have been real people complaining to those others who have spoken to me or posted here.

A few things:
1) Why was a Catholic school handing out condoms? I think that "Absitinice Only" is stupid, but handing out condoms sends mixed messages and does go against the Magisterium.
2) Why were the girls expelled? Did they sign something beforehand saying they would never get pregneant before marriage? I think the girls should have been catechized better in the first place about premarital sex, but I understand that people do what people want anyways because we do have free will.

This situation could have been so much better on all sides. The woman should never have done that. The school should never have been handing them out. The girls should have had beter instruction. The school should not have expelled them.

The bishop needs to tighted the ship there too (I am assuming this is the US. I am in Canada and the Catholic schools are organized very differently than here. Heck, they are run differnetly here in Alberta than in Manitoba).

By pleasure I do not mean gain. People naturally want to feel good and we seek out things that feel good. Sex feels good.

Contraception removes (the appearence of) nearly all consequence from what should be a very adult decision (with the exception of emotional, which can be very serious, and superficial physical, like bleeding or something, consequences. Can you al lease agree on that?


BTW: Sex before marriage isn't a right.

I did not mean those who speak out against the Church and stick up for their own beliefs. I do think that does often take courage (I think in this day standing up for the Church often takes more courage than to bash it. How much courage would it take for a priest who does not abuse people to walk around town in a Roman Collar?)

They have plenty to gain. Everyone has an agenda. If you protested or spoke out agains the school board then you have an agenda you want to see advanced (disbanding the Church altogether, changing a doctrine in the Magisterium, criminalizing the Church...I don't know--these are all extreme and I am aware that they have a 0.001% chance of actually reflecting your views)

Judgemental how. You must remember that Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees here who presented themselves as living perfectly to the Law or Moses. I do not claim to live perfectly. I go to Confession quite often actually.

The issue of Clerical and non Clerical abuse in the Church was poorly managed in the past, but it is getting better. I have covered this optic extensively in other threads, arguing that: it isn't unique to Catholics, it isn't truly pedophilia--but that the media and other use this word as a way to emotionalize the abuse (pedophilia is such a loaded word that has so many negative emotional aspects), and it isn't unique to men (priest or catholic notwithstanding) either. If you want to get into it, PM me. There have also been many suggestions why some priests (as well as teachers, pastors, rabbis, nuns and many many other demographics) abuse very young to teenaged children. Is it celibacy or men only (I'll let you know now---it isn't)? Or could it be seminary training isn't adaquate. Is it soceity has changed and these priest are suffering emotionally and psychologically and lash out like this? Is it these priests are really perverted homosexuals (abusing boys aged 16/17? Please note my sister is homosexual and I am not calling homosexuals perverted, just those that prey on youth.

Like I said, this isn't really the place. Anyone who wishes to discuss this topic like adults can PM me.

 

I am actually a little impressed. I takes a lot to get excommunicated.


Would it be improper to ask what happened?

 

What is loosed on earth is also loose in heaven.

It does follow that we exist metaphysically as he does. It is enough to be like the father. Let the mind be in you that is in Christ.

You cannot be married in the kingdom of heaven.

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Because you confess your mistakes does that give the right to point out the mistakes of others. Jesus is speaking to the potential to pharisism in all of us.
Where does Jesus teach the confession of sins? Jesus said sin no more. If you discover you have made a bad choice choose again. We are forgiven as we forgive, not because we ask for forgiveness. To ask for forgiveness is a meaningless gesture. Forgive you for what? Judgment is not your prerogative, but to forgive sin is.

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If it is getting better it is because it had been tamed with rhetoric.

 

There's nothing impressive about it at all. There are others who would realize as much if they paid attention to Church declarations. And still more who hide their status and go on receiving sacraments in defiance of Church law. When you come right down to it, religious organizations are all about the honor system and some hide inside it.

In any case, I'm unable to recite the Creed in truth. I could recite it in falsehood I guess but what would I be serving? From time to time I sit in on a mass, listen, greet the parishioners about, watch the procession to the communion rail and back, drop a couple of dollars in the plate. But I feel like a trespasser.

 

I'm sorry you feel this way. I extend my compassion to you, but you are the creator of your world. I don't know what else to say but live your life in the name of yourself and just be. Be happy and you will be at peace.

 

Thanks. I try to spend my mind thinking about religion rather than ritual.

 

That's good. If I may suggest, every once in awhile try to spend your mind thinking about yourself.

Your religion depends upon your own spiritual heath. Take care of yourself and the rest will follow.

 

Genesis 1:29 - 30:
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat:and it was so.

Why is in ingestion of marijuana considered so wrong? Why do Baptists, of which I am a member of a southern baptist church (but don't go - Amen!) and have been baptized; anyway - why do Baptists think ALL drinking is wrong? It was Jesus 1st miracle in which He hurned water to wine. To be a drunkard is quite wrong - but there is a difference.

Just thoughts and questions on Labor Day 2010. I must have too much time, eh? lol

What does anyone else thinking of a bit of mary jane, instead of a valium?
Howabout a glass of red wine?

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=395904&highlight=bible+questions+III&page=60

 

lun averse! U r something !
I actually read/scanned most of that. So, I won't start that again.

But you agree, yes?